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    Thanks for the photo, yes I remember it well.
    But yes that was along time ago and can understand why now only replicas.
    Apart from theft of parts etc the weather over time would have also done a lot of damage to them.
    There is also a two third size replica in shopping center in Indonesia of all places.
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    Whist I am grateful and admire the efforts made by the 'few' and also the sacrifices they made, I will never understand the refusal of various air commanders not releasing long range bombers/aircraft to cover the 'Gap' in mid Atlantic to protect the tankers their aircraft were dependent on, the reason given was that bombers were an offensive weapon, not a defensive one, in reality what they meant to say is that there was no glory in chasing U-Boats. In my research (I stand to be corrected) the total output of domestic oil production in the UK in 1939 was 69 barrels. Without the MN and the sacrifices they made there would have been no Battle of Britain, but that of course is overlooked by all historians and commentators.

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    Ivan, as you know the victors write the history, they will only print what looks good.

    As to the defensive versus the offensive, no doubt many of the decisions were taken by those who were never at the front or had any concept of what was going on.
    There would also have been competition between Bomber command and Fighter control.
    Then there would have been the back room boys, public servants who maybe had no idea at all.
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    Sub Hunters.

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    The trouble Fouro was that long range bombers never covered the 'Gap' until 1942/3 by that time over 20,000 MN personnel had been lost at sea a great majority of them in the Gap, The frigates and corvettes didn't have fuel range to cover an Atlantic crossing and had to break off convoy duties to go and refuel in Newfoundland or Iceland, so what may have seemed like an adequate escort on leaving Halifax or New York was 50% depleted at the most critical times. The North Atlantic wasn't conducive to replenishment at sea, which practice was still in its infancy although some did take place.

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    In July 1941 Winston Churchill said, "The Merchant Navy, with Allied comrades, night and day, in weather fair or foul, faces not only the ordinary perils on the sea, but the sudden assaults of war from beneath the waters or from the sky. Nine months later, the war-time Prime Minister added ""But for the Merchant Navy who bring us the food and munitions of war, Britain would be in a perilous state and the Army, Navy, and Air Force could not operate."

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    "Our veterans did not forget about us .... Let's not forget about them." From Michael Levesque

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