Fred Jones

[Lisa Lee]

Thank you. I will get in touch with them. Thanks for all your help

[Doc Vernon]

Sincerely hope that you may get some good reply this time Lisa.

Are you going to apply for his Seamans Pouch at all.

As said it will only have basic info, but could prove useful ??
Cheers

One more thing Lisa, is that as he joined at a later age than was normal for many, he may not have had a very long Service, and possibly there was no CRS10, OR CR10 .
The possibility therefore of there only being the Seamans Pouch.
If that was the case then his Sea Service he had would all be in that Pouch. The only was now i feel is the get that Pouch. ????

[Lisa Lee]

I have sent an email to NA in Kew requesting a copy of the pouch. Also emailed Southampton for his CRS10 cards.
Yes he joined late. He married my Gran in 1940 and she died in 1947. Leaving behind 3 children under 4 years. 1 was my late mum. When his wife died her family raised the children and he joined the Merchant Navy. Don’t think he had any contact with the children after he joined. I heard he got hit by a taxi in 1967ish in London and died. I was hoping he was still in service at the time so I could get a date of death

[Doc Vernon]

Thanks Lisa , sad that he died in that manner. Well as said i do hope you may have some luck , but now feel as what you have told , that he possibly did not have too much Service ? Mind you thats just a Theory!
Will see what his Seamans Pouch brings forth.
Please keep us updated when you get it!
Would like to see if there is any way forward or if as said its his only Record!
Cheers

[Lisa Lee]

Thanks, hopefully I’ll hear something back. If not I’ll maybe pay for an independant researcher to see if they can send me a copy of his pouch. Will let you know

[Doc Vernon]

Lisa
The Pouch should be available from Kew, as said there is the entry there, so they must have it.
I think its the CRS10 that they cannot find or come up with.
Anyway i am sure you will get his Pouch, so yes please keep me updated . If you dont mind when you get that , can you possibly upload as much info on it as possible, taking Pictures of the various Pages would be great, that way i can have a look and see if there could be any leads that may help get futher on this !
Cheers

Births Mar 1914
JONES	Fred	Ridgway	Stockport	8a	84

Surname	Given Name	Age	District	Volume	Page
Deaths Sep 1966
JONES	FRED	57	STOCKPORT	10A	544

Surname	Given Name	Age	District	Volume	Page	Transcriber
Deaths Dec 1968
JONES	FREDERICK	66	STOCKPORT	10A	568

[Lisa Lee]

Yes I definitely will be in touch with any info I find. That is the correct birth, his mother was Annie Ridgway and his father was John Jones, but don’t think it is the correct death certificate as that would mean he was born c1909 with the age being 57.
I was in touch with his sisters son a little while ago. He couldn’t tell me much but did say he remembers an Uncle Fred who was in the Merchant Navy and he used to take him presents home from all the places he had been.

[Doc Vernon]

Thanks Lisa
Yes i did look at that age thing, so it looks like there was another with same name in same City.
Will look at this again and see if there is anther one listed!
Cheers

Yes i found another , just have a look at that other Post Lisa, the one with the Death Details. Post #16

[Lisa Lee]

There is a Frederick David Jones born 05/02/1914 died in Newham 1970. It’s the correct DOB but my Grandfather didn’t have a middle name. Although he was Christened Fred he sometimes used Frederick on some documents

[Lisa Lee]

Just seen it. This would mean he was born in 1922. There was so many Fred/Frederick jones around that time. I think if he died in London it was maybe registered in London. I have asked NA at Kew for his seaman pouch and if he died in service his death date. Hopefully they will find something. I think his sister and her husband would have registered his death. They were Ethel and John Seeds. Shame I can’t view every certificate before purchasing