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    Default Re: Looking for info on father-in-law, Albert Edward Turner

    Hi, Yes by golly, that does seem to match the info I have. Thank you so much.
    So he was a deck boy at 16 yrs old.

    Ealing would be correct and both ship's names.


    Would you know if there would be any record of his time in the seaman's mission?

    David

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    Cheers, have found it and bookmarked it.

    David

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    The Docs I have uploaded are showing the Records David
    The Numbers of his Ships are shown on the one Doc
    The other Doc is for his CR2 with name DOB etc!
    What more ??
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    Within his Records if you can get hold of them now should hold a lot more info as well David.but as to his time on shore ??
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    We believe he entered the Seamans mission, orphanage section, when he was around 6 yrs of age in about 1913/1914


    Any idea as to which Mission this was David???


    Dis he pass on in 1964 at all !??
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    Default Re: Looking for info on father-in-law, Albert Edward Turner

    Albert Edward Turner
    United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941
    birth:
    1908
    Middlesex
    military service:
    United Kingdom

    Ealing would have been in Middlesex 1908.

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    If he served up until 1945 his service records should have moved up into the Fifth Register of Merchant Seaman's Service 1941 to 1972, held in file BT 382/1831 covering the surnames "Turner Ada M to Turner Dugald" These files hold information on up to 60 individuals so would require a visit to Kew unless you want to pay the outrages research funds they offer.

    The Fifth Register of Seaman’s Service 1941 to 1972.

    Records of individual Merchant Seamen's sea service details are held in alphabetical surname order. These details include the following information: Name of seaman, Date and place of birth, Discharge (Seaman’s) book number, Rank, Details of the ships on which he served. These include: Name of ship and official number, date of engagement (Joining ship), Date of discharge (Leaving ship), whether ship was a foreign going of home trade vessel, and records in some cases National Insurance contributions. Details shown in these records are similar to those contained in an individual seaman's discharge book.
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    Default Re: Looking for info on father-in-law, Albert Edward Turner

    Hi Doc
    He died in 1974.

    The numbers of the ship's? How do I use the numbers to identify which ships he sailed on. Sorry to be dim but I have no knowledge of Merchant naval records or shipping.

    Can you explain what a CR2 record is?

    It is exciting to know he went to sea at the age of 15.


    Would you know where I should go to find out more information on his service records or war service?


    He also worked for the National union of Seaman at Tilbury during the 1950's as, I believe, secretary of the union.


    Once again, thank you all for your help!

    David

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    Dear Deepsea,

    Should have read your post first as you have just answered most of my question in my last post!

    Thank you!

    David

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    The numbers of the ship's? How do I use the numbers to identify which ships he sailed on. Sorry to be dim but I have no knowledge of Merchant naval records or shipping.


    Hi David
    The Numbers are available on a site called Miramar Ship Index which is a Pay site ,but well worth it for researchers.
    It will give you all the details of the Ships in question when you Enter a Ships Official Number.
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    Hello David
    This is as far as i can get for you hope it helps

    144375 Empress of Scotland Canadian pacific Railway Co
    144354 War Sidar British Government/The Admiralty
    144346 Berlin/Arabic Changed British Government / Oceanic Steam Navigation Co
    144402 Empress of China/India changed
    147307 Ascania Cunard
    121216 Victorian Allen Lines
    111355 Rimu Take NZ Shipping Co
    147277 Auriania Cunard
    144814 Mataroa Shaw Saville Line
    124582 Ruahine NZ Shipping
    111357 Rau Pehu/Australasian Changed NZ Shipping
    146923 Camberway Sutherland Steamship Co
    145023 Lapwing General Steam Navigation Co
    162365 Georgic Cunard/Oceanic Steamship Co changed
    165408 Stork Ben Line Shipping
    140466 Port Darwin Port Line

    196367 Not found??? Looks like its been changed on second Number??
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    Wow, thank you. I knew a few but not all of those!

    I am most grateful.

    Cheers
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    I think that one that I could not find may well be 136367 Melita Canadian Pacific Railway Co. Built 1918
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