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    Default Re: Trying to get information on a cousin John Maciver, born 1921, died on S.S.Baron Erskine

    Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
    Series BT364
    First name(s) J
    Last name MacIver
    Event year 1918-41
    Birth year -
    Discharge number 201617
    Birth place -
    Birth county/country -
    Discharge number prefix R
    Card type CR2
    Archive The National Archives
    Date range 1918-1941
    Category Education & work
    Subcategory Merchant navy & maritime
    Collections from United Kingdom, Overseas / Unknown


    Added apparently not the one in question Relative ????
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    Default Re: Trying to get information on a cousin John Maciver, born 1921, died on S.S.Baron Erskine

    What does the card type CR2 mean? discharge number R? He had to have joined up again for his ill-fated tour on the SS Baron Erskine. When reading about the ship and the bad coal, it is heartwarming to read. This is only one cousin that died on a ship that was torpedoed, I have 2 more cousines, all by different U-Boats, I am going to try and get more information on as well, Will do it on seperate threads for sure. Want to find all I can on John first.

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    Default Re: Trying to get information on a cousin John Maciver, born 1921, died on S.S.Baron Erskine

    The CR2 is just the term used to id his documents as is say the CRS10 it hold various info
    The R prefix is also just a Prefix of Discharge Numbers used in Discharge Books etc! Is that last post the same person with different R Number?

    See various Pics here
    http://rmhh.co.uk/files/Merchant_Sea...l_Research.pdf

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    Default Re: Trying to get information on a cousin John Maciver, born 1921, died on S.S.Baron Erskine

    Reference: BT 395/1/64659
    Description:
    Medal listing of McIver, John
    Discharge number: R201617
    Date of Birth: 22 September 1907
    Date: [1946-2002]
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)
    Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
    Access conditions: Open on Transfer Medal listing of McIver, John Discharge number: R201617 Date of Birth: 22... | The National Archives

    Looks like this is another J Maciver as DOB NOT CORRECT Relative ????
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    Alison,a Record of Death cert, not sure if you have this:

    Oops bear with me having a problem downloading
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    Default Re: Trying to get information on a cousin John Maciver, born 1921, died on S.S.Baron Erskine

    Think you will find the one you are after in this Series His CRS10 should be there.
    MacIver A to Mackae W
    This will give full details of all Ships Picture when joined etc You need to visit the NA at Kew in Person though or get someone to do it for you!
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    MacIver A to Mackae W | The National Archives

    Reference: BT 382/1110
    Description: MacIver A to Mackae W
    Date: 1941 Jan 01 - 1946 Dec 31
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Former reference in its original department: 1093
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    Quote Originally Posted by alison macrae View Post
    I cannot thank you all who have been so wonderful in providing all this information. My cousin I believed was born on the Isle Of Lewis, and then his parents moved to Glasgow when he was a youngster. His family used to live at 1a Lochganvich. All the MacIvers lived in Lochganvich.


    Thanks, will look up more in the morning.

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    Yes very sad that story, and that poor boy only 16 William Elder, He was the youngest that died on the boat, and the oldest was 61. Just heartbreaking.

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    Sad indeed, some lost on other ships were barely 14.

    BBC News - Youngest World War II service casualty identified

    K.

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