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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...geon::Sinking:
    Something stinks and it's not just the name!

    The chief executive of the Scottish National party has resigned with immediate effect as an escalating row over party membership figures engulfed the party’s senior echelons, prompting demands for a complete overhaul of how it carries out its internal business.

    Peter Murrell, who has been chief executive since 2000 and married Nicola Sturgeon in 2010, said he had planned to step down after the leadership contest to replace his wife had concluded, but was doing so now because “my future has become a distraction from the campaign”.

    All three candidates vying to replace Sturgeon welcomed his decision, but only Humza Yousaf, widely understood to be the party leadership’s preferred successor, went on to praise him as “an outstanding servant of the independence movement and the SNP”.

    Murrell’s position became untenable after the party’s head of communication, Murray Foote, resigned on Friday evening, saying he had been given false information to feed to the media about the disputed membership figures by “colleagues at party HQ”.

    As pressure grew on Murrell to apologise, the Herald reported on Saturday morning that he had been told to hand in his resignation by the end of the day or face a vote of no confidence from the party’s national executive committee.

    On Thursday, the party revealed the total number of members eligible to vote in its leadership contest had fallen to 72,186 after coming under sustained pressure from all three leadership candidates to release the figures. Two of the candidates – the finance minister, Kate Forbes, and Ash Regan, a former junior minister – questioned the integrity of the ballot process.

    The number released was significantly lower than that previously estimated by party sources and briefed to journalists in the early stages of the campaign. It also confirmed a Sunday Mail report from February that the SNP’s membership had slumped by 30,000 since 2021, which Foote originally dismissed as “drivel”.

    In a statement issued just before lunchtime, Murrell said: “Responsibility for the SNP’s responses to media queries about our membership number lies with me as chief executive. While there was no intent to mislead, I accept that this has been the outcome.

    He said he was “very proud” of what the party had achieved in his time as chief executive, citing “14 national election wins”.

    Amid criticism of his proximity to the contest to replace his wife, Murrell added: “The election contest is being run by the national secretary and I have had no role in it at any point.”

    Sturgeon’s unexpected resignation as first minister in February sparked calls for Murrell to step aside and be replaced by a more neutral caretaker figure. The pair have faced criticism for years about the effect on transparency and accountability of having a married couple at the top of the party.

    Sturgeon’s resignation prompted further speculation about a Police Scotland investigation into the fate of 600,000 in donations to the SNP given to mount its next independence referendum campaign, and Murrell’s loan of 107,000 to the party to “assist with cashflow” after the 2021 Holyrood election campaign.

    Sturgeon said her husband was right to announce his resignation. She told Sky News: “He had intended to step down when there was a new leader but I think he was right to make that announcement today.”

    She added: “Peter has been a key part of the electoral success we have achieved in recent years and I know there will be a recognition of that across the party.”


    Just before Murrell announced his resignation, Forbes published an open letter to SNP members, urging them not to sit out the election because they were “scunnered by the stories”. She promised a series of internal changes, including an independent audit of membership numbers and finances.

    Forbes wrote: “Restoring trust and transparency in the way that the SNP carries out its internal business and restoring the confidence of people in Scotland are two sides of the same coin.”

    Responding to Murrell’s resignation, Regan said “Eight years ago was the point where it was unacceptable to have the husband of the party leader as the CEO. I am encouraged to see the democratic foundations of the party now asserting their rightful function.”

    Thanking Murrell, Yousaf said: “I agree with Peter that it is time for him to move on and make way for a new leader to appoint a new chief executive as passionate about the SNP and the cause of independence as he has been.

    “With less than 10 days to go in this leadership contest, it is vital we all focus on the policies and vision we have for the party, movement and country.”

    From The Guardian



    ''There may be trouble ahead
    But while there's moonlight
    And music, and love, and romance
    Let's face the music and dance

    Before the fiddlers have fled
    Before they ask us to pay the bill
    And while we still have the chance
    Let's face the music and dance

    Soon, we'll be without the moon
    Humming a different tune
    And then

    There may be teardrops to shed
    So while there's moonlight
    And music, and love, and romance
    Face the music and dance.....'' - Leg it the pair of you
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    Default Re: There may be trouble ahead.....

    Quote Originally Posted by marian gray View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...geon::sinking:
    something stinks and it's not just the name!

    The chief executive of the scottish national party has resigned with immediate effect as an escalating row over party membership figures engulfed the party’s senior echelons, prompting demands for a complete overhaul of how it carries out its internal business.

    Peter murrell, who has been chief executive since 2000 and married nicola sturgeon in 2010, said he had planned to step down after the leadership contest to replace his wife had concluded, but was doing so now because “my future has become a distraction from the campaign”.

    All three candidates vying to replace sturgeon welcomed his decision, but only humza yousaf, widely understood to be the party leadership’s preferred successor, went on to praise him as “an outstanding servant of the independence movement and the snp”.

    Murrell’s position became untenable after the party’s head of communication, murray foote, resigned on friday evening, saying he had been given false information to feed to the media about the disputed membership figures by “colleagues at party hq”.

    As pressure grew on murrell to apologise, the herald reported on saturday morning that he had been told to hand in his resignation by the end of the day or face a vote of no confidence from the party’s national executive committee.

    On thursday, the party revealed the total number of members eligible to vote in its leadership contest had fallen to 72,186 after coming under sustained pressure from all three leadership candidates to release the figures. Two of the candidates – the finance minister, kate forbes, and ash regan, a former junior minister – questioned the integrity of the ballot process.

    The number released was significantly lower than that previously estimated by party sources and briefed to journalists in the early stages of the campaign. It also confirmed a sunday mail report from february that the snp’s membership had slumped by 30,000 since 2021, which foote originally dismissed as “drivel”.

    In a statement issued just before lunchtime, murrell said: “responsibility for the snp’s responses to media queries about our membership number lies with me as chief executive. While there was no intent to mislead, i accept that this has been the outcome.

    He said he was “very proud” of what the party had achieved in his time as chief executive, citing “14 national election wins”.

    Amid criticism of his proximity to the contest to replace his wife, murrell added: “the election contest is being run by the national secretary and i have had no role in it at any point.”

    sturgeon’s unexpected resignation as first minister in february sparked calls for murrell to step aside and be replaced by a more neutral caretaker figure. The pair have faced criticism for years about the effect on transparency and accountability of having a married couple at the top of the party.

    Sturgeon’s resignation prompted further speculation about a police scotland investigation into the fate of 600,000 in donations to the snp given to mount its next independence referendum campaign, and murrell’s loan of 107,000 to the party to “assist with cashflow” after the 2021 holyrood election campaign.

    Sturgeon said her husband was right to announce his resignation. She told sky news: “he had intended to step down when there was a new leader but i think he was right to make that announcement today.”

    she added: “peter has been a key part of the electoral success we have achieved in recent years and i know there will be a recognition of that across the party.”


    just before murrell announced his resignation, forbes published an open letter to snp members, urging them not to sit out the election because they were “scunnered by the stories”. She promised a series of internal changes, including an independent audit of membership numbers and finances.

    Forbes wrote: “restoring trust and transparency in the way that the snp carries out its internal business and restoring the confidence of people in scotland are two sides of the same coin.”

    responding to murrell’s resignation, regan said “eight years ago was the point where it was unacceptable to have the husband of the party leader as the ceo. I am encouraged to see the democratic foundations of the party now asserting their rightful function.”

    thanking murrell, yousaf said: “i agree with peter that it is time for him to move on and make way for a new leader to appoint a new chief executive as passionate about the snp and the cause of independence as he has been.

    “with less than 10 days to go in this leadership contest, it is vital we all focus on the policies and vision we have for the party, movement and country.”

    from the guardian



    ''there may be trouble ahead
    but while there's moonlight
    and music, and love, and romance
    let's face the music and dance

    before the fiddlers have fled
    before they ask us to pay the bill
    and while we still have the chance
    let's face the music and dance

    soon, we'll be without the moon
    humming a different tune
    and then

    there may be teardrops to shed
    so while there's moonlight
    and music, and love, and romance
    face the music and dance.....'' :seeya: - leg it the pair of you
    now isnt that the truth of it all .......well spoken marian r683532 cappy

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    she has been banging the drum for independence can the Scots afford leaving have they got a health system a DWP plus the thousands of jobs that will go as soon as they break away the sub base alone will take 50,000 jobs alone? be careful what you wish for.. jp

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    I wonder if the disappearance of both of them is due to the missing 600k of ring fenced money?
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    Normally I tried to avoid politics, but the Sottish accented Humzah Yousuf shows that inbred attitudes cannot be washed away by immersion in another culture which was clearly shown by the most stupid comment of the week, nay year when he asked a lot of Ukranian women, 'where are all your men then' if there had been a man there no doubt the women would have been ignored completely, just an observation.

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    If had been anyone else he would have been branded insensitive.
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    Not only branded insensitive Vic........ hapless too! Check out his poor minion having to run to keep up whilst holding Mr Bean's crutches!
    Thankfully he didn't need to call an Ambulance!


    https://twitter.com/GlennBBC/status/...falls-25000025
    Last edited by Marian Gray; 20th March 2023 at 12:19 AM.

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    From experience, when a PM or senior minister suddenly resigns as was the case with Fishy there is often some skeleton in the cupboard that precipitates it.
    From what Marion has stated this could well be the case here.
    We have had several similar instances here in Oz, but when you are controlled by two consecutive fishes, you just hope there will not be a third.
    Be a bit fishy if it did happen.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

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    Lovely description that could apply to all politicians, they are like baboons climbing a tree, the higher they go, the less likeable parts they start to show.
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    #8 so when will the media in NZ decide to spill the beans as to why Jacinda Ardern resigned so unexpectedly? Maybe she is one of the few truely honest politicians there has been in sometime.

    No wonder Sir Keir Stammer said he would never do a power sharing deal with the SNP, he likely knew the SNP was tainted. The labour party will be loving these shenanigans 45 scottish seat up for grabs

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