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    #9 Well seeing as the UK did not sign the Schengen Agreement they should send them back to were they came from. Don't blame the Labour party they have not been in power since 2010. Judge them on how they react after the next general election.
    Don't go blaming Blair they were not arriving in rubber ducks and a lot of those that did come came in legally, yes a lot also did not.
    The government have had since 2010 to get to grips with illegal immigrants. Why do they just not turn the boats around and send them back.

    The very fact that the UK & France have signed an agreement means we should be entitled to return the migrants back to France.
    By France signing the agreement to me means they admit the migrants are coming from France.
    France is supposed to be a safe country so therefore the illegals should stay there and then the French should be the ones to decide to remove them back to were they came from. Dump the Albanians in Italy and they can deal with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Curry View Post
    One of the promises of Brexit was to take back control of our borders. That seems to be working out well.
    One think you cannot blame Brexit on is this debacale.

    Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng's mini-budget cost Britain an eye-watering 74billion, the head of the UK's debt management office has said. Robert Stheeman, who is in charge of overseeing the UK's 2.1trillion Government bond market, echoed recent comments from the Bank of England that his office was not fully briefed before the former PM and the ex-Chancellor's economic blueprint was unveiled last month sparking chaos with its unfunded tax cuts.
    Must be true as it is a quote from the Daily Express.
    As long as countries allow migrants to gross their borders and help them on their way to the promised land of the UK. Those countries pass on the problems with which mass migration creates. The whole migration issue has become a political game of pass the parcel with the migrants being the unwanted gift.The majority end up in Northern Europe to the irritation of the indigenous population.
    The whole debacle of the mini budget with tax cuts etc is purely down to the ineptitude of the politicians involved as well as the civil servants who advise them and has nothing to do with brexit

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    Yes refugees is a game of pass the parcel from South to North and then onto the UK. The UK should just send them back. At least it would demonstrate that we intend to take control of our borders.

    Well I am not sure the Civil servants can be blamed for the mini budget.
    The chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng sacked Sir Tom Scholar, the veteran permanent secretary at the Treasury, has been sacked by Kwasi Kwarteng as the new chancellor moves to purge economic “orthodoxy” from UK government.

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    Tell me how you send them back, many do not have a passport, intentionally. The Frogs will refuse to land them. You try and turn the boats round, they refuse (they did in Greece ), you try to tow them back, they all jump in the water, you are now bound to rescue them. If this is the labour strategy it doomed. Fly them to Rewandah best bet, but will never happen. There is no real chance of anything without co-operation from the Frogs, about as much chance as a pork pie in a synagogue with that happening.
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    Yes, but Blair signed us up to the Court of Human Rights, which Governs our behaviour towards immigrants and their rights.

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    Can we not transport them to van demons land.....and put some retired ships master from the 50s in charge.....perhaps one from the old tramp companies R683532

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    I emigrated from the UK On June 11th 1958 to Toronto, Canada 20 years old, and an 18-year-old bride of three days with transportation prepaid (by us) and 50 pounds in cash and three suitcases*of personal effects via tourist class on Cunard's "Sylvania" to*Montreal and train to Toronto. At that time Canada was making a great push to increase its population*via immigration*without increasing its job opportunity*or creating housing.* Immigrants*competing*for both jobs and housing with the local population.* I mentioned that it was cold once, while standing in a queue for a streetcar (tram) in a subzero*blizzard.* And was told "If you don't like it, go back where you come from."* I stayed in Canada for three years but wasn't happy.

    In 1862 we, plus a 4month old son emigrated to the USA and Los Angeles, California*with Cdn$ 1000 and the offer of a "Steady extra Cook" at the former Ambassador Hotel "Home of the Coconut*Grove" night club, in L.A. at $19.97. paid daily. I had to join the Culinary Union which I did, and it gave us medical coverage.

    A steady extra was not part of the permanent*staff but worked only when needed.

    While in MN, on the Union Castle "big ships" I was allowed to sign*apprenticeship articles for cooking, and as often as I could I attended their school in Silvertown, London between voyages. Most of the other apprentices and cooks didn't want to move around the kitchen, they were happy just working on one station and attending the school meant the majority tried to dodge school because they would have to stay at the Seaman's Mission for six weeks. I could stay at my grannies in London,*so I volunteered*to go.

    As such, the Chefs at the school pushed me to take my ship's cooks ticket, which I did and passed at 19.

    Back to the Ambassador Hotel, unlike the other cooks, permanent*and extra, and big thanks to the*Merch. I could work any station in the kitchen and be second man in the bake or butcher shop, so I got steady*work relieving people on their day off or if sick. I'm telling you this, because this is me as a legal immigrant, and since 1970 an American citizen.

    From this beginning*I rose to*be the President and CEO of a multinational catering company and retired at 47. And have never been told to "go back where you came from" in the USA. As a matter of fact, time and bloody time I'm told "I just love your accent.* I asked my brother in England, could he tell from my accent what part of England I was from.* He said "You can't, '' he said "You have a mid-Atlantic accent."

    I have all the sympathies for the desire of people that want to emigrate from their native land to somewhere and who strive for a better life, but not for those who jump the queue and enter illegally.

    I have sympathy for those locked into an oppressive country and seek to flee and escape tyranny, but not to pass or be passed through free countries to get to what they perceive to be the promised land (UK or USA).

    Cheers, Rodney
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic mcclymont View Post
    Yes, but Blair signed us up to the Court of Human Rights, which Governs our behaviour towards immigrants and their rights.

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    And Mrs Blair was one of the co-authors of the yuman rites act and the enactment certainly helped with the Blair's property portfolio.

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    hi ivan cloherty #18
    good evening, It is absolutely unbelievable to think that cherie blair formed the ( Matrix Chambers of human rights ), and at the same time was part responsible for the enactment of the bill that went through parliament in the name of the Human Rights Act, Looking back it looks like a scam from arthur daleys one hundred dodges book, And today we are absolutely sure it is as we are seeing and suffering the consequences of her and her husbands chicanery,
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    #17 You should congratulate yourself for making the right decision Rodney and you are one of those and there are not too many self made men.Who pulled themself up by their own bootstraps and says much for your own moral standards that you did so. Today too often one hears the whining of “ I could of done that “ , why the hell didn’t they then ? Then the excuses come out. Most cases of an unsuccessful life style is lack of moral fibre , and becomes very apparent with the excuses . One has to put in the work in to succeed and those who dont are mainly work shy. Cheers JS....
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