She'll and BP

[John Arton]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...t-zero-crisis/
Saw this on the internet, apparently BP's drive to green energy has caused their share prices to plunge leading to American investors to look at shell buying BP.,
Another example of this stupid just stop oil protesters and net zero policy.
Rgds
J.A

[James Curry]

BP has been going down the pan since Lord Brown moved on, Tony Hayward ended up carrying the can for the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, never mind it was Halliburton, Dick Cheney's former company, had four staff on the rig, and was responsible for "cementing" on the sea bed.
Enter USA CEO demanded by Obama,Bob Dudley. Think one of his first decisions was to sell off the newly built Tanker fleet. He viewed the shipping of oil as an accident waiting to happenm reasoning was BP could not afford more bad press if a ollution incident happened. Not that they stopped shipping oil just let the chartered shipping company carry the can.
Here in the UK, certainly in my area BP & Shell have to most expensive petrol forecourt prices around. and not by a penny a litre more like 5 pence a litre.

[happy daze john in oz]

Here in Oz BP are going gang busters, always the first to lower pump prices and always well below the price Shell charge.

[James Curry]

When I was on the Oil Tankers in BP we used to run into Brisbane and I am sure we did Dampier both discahrge ports. Also we did a load from a SBM in the Timor sea area? What a pain in the ass that was. Nearly wrecked the engine having to godead slow astern a lot of the time. After completing the load think it was 4 days we had to start pulling out the Exhaust valves. Reason we to remove all the build up of thick tar/carbon deposits. Slow speed diesels do not like running on a light load. We discharged in Japan. If memory serves the cargo was classified as thick waxy reside? anyway a heated cargo. We were supposed to be on that run for a while. I was well over due for my relief having done 6 months of which we had no second engineer for 3 months. We were also down a junior engineer whom worked his ticket home!! he pumped the Sludge tank overboard while at anchor in at Singapore. Bloody awful ship British Skill, not the builders fault BP had an engineering super who insisted we alter the Fuel injection timing to reduce fuel consumption. This led to all sorts of engine problems. The Chief engineer told the super he needed to think again as it was destroying the engine, excessive liner wear as the Cylinder lubrication had also been set to minimum. Super said No Chief said he was resetting everything as should be if he did not like that response he would resign here and now. Office silence. New super flew out and had a duck egg when he found out what had gone on by the last eejit.

Anyway on the way to Japan the oldman said the office would not carry out any reliefs due to the costs of flying crew out to and from Japan. Everyone resigned on the spot, Telex from the manning agency , think it was Manx Marine IOM. Those who have 6 months or more will be relieved next call Japan. This was the era when BP had only 2 ships in the fleet, think it was mind 1980's I ended up joining Bibbys for several years before going back to BP as they had started a massive building programme 70 +ships and were looking for gas engineers for the planned LNG Fleet. BP still used a manning agency but were in all but name BP employees, good pay and conditions and also included in the share scheme, not as good as the BP Office staff who had a buy a shre and BP gave you another one free. We could invest upto £250 a month and thankfully got mates rates as BP set the share price for sea staff at 50% of the current market value. You were contracted to keep the shares for a pre agreed period 12months upto a maxium 5 years. Good company then but got fed up with all the HSSE bullshit.

[Tony Taylor]

When I was on the Oil Tankers in BP we used to run into Brisbane and I am sure we did Dampier both discahrge ports. Also we did a load from a SBM in the Timor sea area? What a pain in the ass that was. Nearly wrecked the engine having to godead slow astern a lot of the time. After completing the load think it was 4 days we had to start pulling out the Exhaust valves. Reason we to remove all the build up of thick tar/carbon deposits. Slow speed diesels do not like running on a light load. We discharged in Japan. If memory serves the cargo was classified as thick waxy reside? anyway a heated cargo. We were supposed to be on that run for a while. I was well over due for my relief having done 6 months of which we had no second engineer for 3 months. We were also down a junior engineer whom worked his ticket home!! he pumped the Sludge tank overboard while at anchor in at Singapore. Bloody awful ship British Skill, not the builders fault BP had an engineering super who insisted we alter the Fuel injection timing to reduce fuel consumption. This led to all sorts of engine problems. The Chief engineer told the super he needed to think again as it was destroying the engine, excessive liner wear as the Cylinder lubrication had also been set to minimum. Super said No Chief said he was resetting everything as should be if he did not like that response he would resign here and now. Office silence. New super flew out and had a duck egg when he found out what had gone on by the last eejit.

Anyway on the way to Japan the oldman said the office would not carry out any reliefs due to the costs of flying crew out to and from Japan. Everyone resigned on the spot, Telex from the manning agency , think it was Manx Marine IOM. Those who have 6 months or more will be relieved next call Japan. This was the era when BP had only 2 ships in the fleet, think it was mind 1980's I ended up joining Bibbys for several years before going back to BP as they had started a massive building programme 70 +ships and were looking for gas engineers for the planned LNG Fleet. BP still used a manning agency but were in all but name BP employees, good pay and conditions and also included in the share scheme, not as good as the BP Office staff who had a buy a shre and BP gave you another one free. We could invest upto £250 a month and thankfully got mates rates as BP set the share price for sea staff at 50% of the current market value. You were contracted to keep the shares for a pre agreed period 12months upto a maxium 5 years. Good company then but got fed up with all the HSSE bullshit.

maybe why all bp oil tankers are full Indian crew now.

[James Curry]

Not sure if BP have any Oil Tankers at all now, chartered in tonnage? I know they still have several LNG Carriers. Certainly they did man 2/3rds of the tanker fleet while I was there with Indians, I know though that at that time the ships manned by Indians were rotated out and remanned by British/European engineers and deck officers. Reason was to play catchup on out standing maintenance issues. When sorted they were again rotated back to the Indian manned vessels.

[happy daze john in oz]

Oil prices well down now, $62.4 USA per barrel.

Pump prices here all over the place, Shell still the most expensive.
A month ago it was at $2.29 per liter, now the lowest I have seen is $1.57.9 but Shell still at $179.9 while BP at $169.9

[Tony Taylor]

Not sure if BP have any Oil Tankers at all now, chartered in tonnage? I know they still have several LNG Carriers. Certainly they did man 2/3rds of the tanker fleet while I was there with Indians, I know though that at that time the ships manned by Indians were rotated out and remanned by British/European engineers and deck officers. Reason was to play catchup on out standing maintenance issues. When sorted they were again rotated back to the Indian manned vessels.

They still have a sizeable fleet of oil tankers but exclusively manned by Indians, info from their recruitment team a couple of months back. The 12 vessel LNG fleet is UK manned with a few Europeans.

[James Curry]

I have tried to get the current fleet list and the unless I am looking in the wrong place , have tried BP Shipping, BP fleet list and severalother websites. The only thing I can find is the about LNG Carriers no mention of the Oil Tanker fleet. I seem to remember they made a a lot of British sea staff redundant, and not on very good terms either, go now and you get nothing stay until we tell you to go pay out was voyage leave earned and a months salary. They moved the fleet across I believe to Maresk line managment (IOM) and there was a job offer to those who wanted to work for peanuts. As usual British sea staff shafted again. I have two friends who are sailing as Chief Engineers on the LNG Fleetstill a substantial number of Brits manning the vessels but the odd Indian has crept in. Even during my time they would sneak an Indian Deck officer onboard. My last BP ship LNG ship was the British Innovator, they had an Indian Chief Mate nice lad but as much use as a chocolate fire guard. He joined in Ferrol when we were in Dry dock. We left drydock and headed for Trinidad. Went alongside loaded enough in one tank , went to anchor. Took us 18 hours to cooldown before we went back alongside to complete loading. He got bumped down to second mate for the rest of the trip as the poor guy was frazzled. I believe he did get there in the end but left BP to go elsewhere.

[J Gowers]

I was with BP through Wallems IOM (paid in US dollars) in the late 80s money was not bad but a drop of 50% from what I had been earning on drilling rigs the year before. I got made redundant from the drilling company due to the slump at the time did a three trips with BP, I was gas engineer on the Gas Enterprise nice accommodation but **** engine room with Pielstick PC2 engines, a nightmare they were, but my last trip with BP was on the British Trent and I think that was one of the best trips I did in my time at sea all British crew and officers and plenty of runs up the road.