Just stop Oil

[Douglas Bay]

Wow James!
Mind blowing ... and this is just one town!

I've been in the oil industry for over 45 years, and very few people believe me when I tell them that the danger from
petrol (not diesel - yet) driven cars is so low it is hard to differentiate. The majors continue to work on further reducing
pollutants from these cars that it makes more sense to carry on driving until the oil finally runs out in 100 years time!
Diesel cars are another beast altogether - and these cars will take a lot longer to bring under the pollutant radar.

My point about where do all the tens of millions of batteries go when their life is done driving cars has yet to be properly
answered by anyone in "authority" - let alone the Just Stop Oil beauticians.
Furthermore the chap from Ectrocity (?) who sponsors these JSO idiots gets a very handsome subsidy from the government
to keep turbines alive - I know of two friends of mine who have openly debated this issue with him on open 'Oil Vs EV' forums,
and he too did not come up with a viable solution of where all those batteries will go once they reach the end of their life.

Ironic, isn't it?!

[Marian Gray]

#29, Douglas, links may be of interest. Though silent in operation don't see them being used by boy racers in cars or motorbikes. Only know of one owner so far.

https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories...20third%20time.

https://www.cummins.com/news/2021/09...end-their-life

[James Curry]

Just did the old google search about EV battery disposal.

Recycling electric car batteries using a “crushing and sorting” process. It is the most eco-friendly way to recycle electric car batteries. This process separates usable electric car battery parts from hazardous materials. Another method of recycling is burning the battery. In this method, the battery may release harmful toxins into the air.Ah well that method will certainly help the planet (NOT)

https://www.globaltechenvironmental....ing/hybrid-ev/

Think I will stick with my current vehicle, a gutless eco boost Kona.
Miss my diesels.

[Douglas Bay]

Thanks for the websites, Marian.
Most interesting reading.
I am, however, still sceptical about the end-of-life use of these Lithium batteries.
Furthermore, where does lithium come from?

[j.sabourn]

Well if I can find any way of souping up my battery gopher , when it comes time to replace the batterys will make enquiries.
every one makes a big issue of electric motivation but it has been around for years . Even the Navy to my recollection were using electric outboards on their fast attack boats and were common in the SBS . You never heard them coming and the first you knew they were there it was too late in any case. This was in 1980 how long before that goodness knows. JS

[Marian Gray]

Douglas, As am I. Did have an interesting and robust link sent to me from my cousin in OZ to the detriment of the Lithium batteries....but can I find it! If and when will post.

[Marian Gray]

John I am aware that there are charging stations being built or in the process around certains areas to combat that very problem but I didn't pay much attention as I'm not tempted to buy. There is one in my village [population 3,500] beside the play park so at least the children won't be bored whilst it's being utilised.

The Govt. link below is the most up to date I could find...and pretty dire for N.I.
https://maps.dft.gov.uk/ev-charging-map/index.html

[Ivan Cloherty]

[QUOTE=Douglas Bay;416898
, where does lithium come from?[/QUOTE]

Currently the majority comes from Namibia and Angola, with photographic evidence of child miners employed. Large deposits have been discovered in Cornwall and work is currently in progress to open the old tin mines which are in close proximity

[John Swan]

I was 1st trip apprentice loading Border Regiment in Swansea on Coronation day 53, awful weather, rain & wind kept having to hoist bunting up only for it to blow down again. Please Don’t just stop oil, I have a very nice Shell pension thanks very much!

[j.sabourn]

#39. John, May have asked you before ? Did you go to Nellists ? JS
Did you know Cyril Scott from Newcastle who was also a Shell apprentice and round the traps the same time as yourself. Cheers JS