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    Strange she isn't showing either J and G flags for aground, or an anchor ball before it got dark when the two red lights should have been displayed. Mind you it was lit up like November 5th, so they probably wouldn't have been visible anyway -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jobson View Post
    Strange she isn't showing either J and G flags for aground, or an anchor ball before it got dark when the two red lights should have been displayed. Mind you it was lit up like November 5th, so they probably wouldn't have been visible anyway -
    Did you mean single flag hoists as in

    G............ I require a pilot

    or

    J......I am going to send a message by semaphore



    or a two-flag hoist of........... JG.............. together one under the other, which is not shown in the ICS

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy daze john in oz View Post
    Would she, or should she have had a pilot on board at this point?

    I would have thought if one on board this would not happen.
    There will not have been a pilot as the Western Solent is no longer a compulsory pilotage area. ABP stopped it at least twenty years ago.

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    We had two Great Barrier Reef pilots on board when the TSMV Palana hit part of the reef in 1952.
    Terry Sullivan R340406

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    #10 Panama Canal . That was when the Canal was under American control John and is only an assumption by most of us that it is still the same. Anyone off the bridge who has been through recently will have a better idea. ? this doesn't include passengers as they will see no difference , just the same crew handling the lines etc. but will not see the legal paper side to be adhered to.
    wonder if that old croc in one of the lakes is still alive it was supposed to be about 50 years old then and that was 50 years ago Cheers JS.
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    [QUOTE=Michael Jobson;390499]Strange she isn't showing either J and G flags for aground, or an anchor ball before it got dark when the two red lights should have been displayed. /QUOTE]

    The two red lights would only have been displayed if the vessel was afloat and 'Not under Command' meaning she had lost all motive power, including, or loss of steering. If at anchor she would have shown one all-round light for'd and if over 150 feet in length and additional all-round light at the stern positioned lower than the for'd light, thus enabling other vessels to determine which way she was laying and prudence dictated that you did not pass ahead of a vessel laying at anchor in case you fouled its chain

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    Hi Terry.
    Here are some pics of the Palana aground on a reef off Mackay. I got these from a woman who lived in Mackay, whose father was one of the divers there.
    Des


    MV_PALANA_in_Mackay___aground.jpgMV_PALANA_in_Mackay___c.jpg
    Last edited by Des Taff Jenkins; 6th November 2021 at 02:50 AM.
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    Des Re Yr. #17.,thanks for those probably quite rare photos.Good to know she never became a wreck.Here's some info about the vessel.
    Last edited by Graham Shaw; 8th November 2021 at 01:10 PM.

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    Hi Graham
    I have a picture of her entering Sydney after the grounding to go into dry dock, I'm not sure but remember someone on site that was on her and stayed for the drydocking.
    Des.
    PS The pictures are free to use.
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