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29th November 2020, 07:28 PM
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Its no wonder I am sceptical about climate change. Just been watching Country File on the BBC, John Craven pops regals with tales of climate change and how the some of the summers in past thirty years have been the hottest in the past 1400 years.
Did a bit searching and UK records on weather only go back to about 1860, so where does he get his 1400 year info?
Vic
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29th November 2020, 07:35 PM
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Who knows Vic he may have a god looking Glass!
But besides that here in NSW on the Weekend again Broke all Records for many many Years with heat, up to 42 in some places, with Fires and Strong Winds . Now Today woke up to big change with cool day and Fog and Rain at only getting to a Top of 19 degrees~
You couldnt put your Money on this silly Weather pattern. Tomorrow again forecast going up again to the 40 mark! Eeeeek!
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29th November 2020, 07:49 PM
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Ship some of the hot weather this way Doc.
Vic
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29th November 2020, 08:39 PM
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Paleoclimatology Is the name of the scientific branch of science that studies the change in earth's climate throughout history.
The earth's climate is told by many methods. a few are:
Tree rings on both living and fossilized trees. The width or even lack of width tells them whether there was hot or cold years and wet or dry.
They use core samples in ice which shows records and climate conditions back 800,000 years.
They use glacial land forms, and the rocks within give them evidence of climate changes, vis a vis how far they traveled and how long it took.
They bring up core samples of the ocean beds which give evidence of life forms and vegetation fossils dating back 700,million years ago and by these they can tell how the weather was.
And a load more methods, satellite mapping is one more I thought of as typing.
If they can tell you what the weather was like at a given spot at the north pole in degrees of fifty years 800,000 ago. And a longer time span for the Great Rift Valley in Kenya. Surely the telling of how the weather was in 1820 would be a piece of cake.
Cheers, Rodney
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29th November 2020, 11:28 PM
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Rodney I don't dispute what you say, I wouldn't be so bold, but! they are scientific interpretations and recordings of their geological findings, they are not records as in being recorded at the time of occurence and being noted at said time, and as such can only give a generalisation and not a given exact fact. Therefore they are subject to interpretation to suit the presenters preferences either for scientific or political agendas. We are talking about a well known BBC presenter stating an apparent fact of records of temperatures over 1400 years, I doubt that that statement has any veracity in written word, be it on papyrus, stone or parchment, not all viewers are gullible, although there are those who think it it appears on the BBC it must be true. But naturally I stand to be corrected.
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29th November 2020, 11:43 PM
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Seems to me it would be better for the current generation to act now, just to clean up some of what has been done.
If it all proves true, something positive in our time may help to prevent disaster in the future, if by chance all is
proved wrong, certainly will make things better for those that come after us. We are meant to make the world a
better place anyway. Doing nothing now will not achieve that.
Keith.
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29th November 2020, 11:53 PM
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The world is over populated how does one change that ? JS
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29th November 2020, 11:56 PM
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Last edited by Keith at Tregenna; 30th November 2020 at 12:07 AM.
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30th November 2020, 12:08 AM
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Is it nature or man made nature ? The present birth rate far outcedes the death rate in any case. China tried the hard way a number of years ago by Tyrinical laws allowing 1 child to a family . No way was it enforceable. If China can’t do it no one can. The present clamour about climate change is also man made. The world will Do as it always has , go its own way , and all life forms will adjust to survive to the conditions it produces or go the same way as the dinosaurs . JS
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30th November 2020, 12:34 AM
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Only adding as you mentioned similar.
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Because they had a bloody vaccine before the virus kicked off!!
Was it their way to keep their population down, but, didn't expect
it to get out of control. I don't really know, just wondered.
K.
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