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    G'day Glen, sadly there have been many stories such as yours, and some even worse. I just hope that you have somehow managed to reconcile yourself and succeded in life. No other person can even begin to understand the personal grief that people in your situation had to endure. Just hope that such events never ever happen again.
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    “If Blood was the price -
    We had to pay for our freedom
    Then the Merchant Ship Sailors
    Paid it in full”

    Norman Date / Hon Secretary/ Merchant Navy Association Bristol UK

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    Default 17th Sept 1940

    A count down to a family loss involving Tregenna, also the Captain, Crew and especially the Children of the City of Benares, was there ever a day without similar loss, I mourn them all. Tregenna just brings it home to me at this time of year. They should be remembered every day.

    'SS Crown Arun'(2,372t) cargo ship, from Gaspe, Quebec, Canada to Hull with a cargo of pit props, was sunk by U 99 in the North-western Approaches. No Casualties. * TREGENNA WAS SUNK BY U 65 ON SEPT. 17-1940 WITH THE LOSS OF 33 LIVES.



    “We Shall Remember Them”

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    The manner of the transportation of British children to Australia was shocking. But from hardship comes strength and purpose. A great many of those children settled and Australia is a better place because of that.
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    The whole issue of children being 'transported' to Oz just after WW2 was atotal disgrace in the manner in which it was conducted. Much of the blame lies with the govs of both Oz, who wanted toi re-stock the nation after the wear, and the U.K. gov who just appeared wanted to off load a few. There were children told their parents had died in the war so they would be going to a better country. many years later they were to discover the parenst still alive. then there was the issue of the church and the way they dealt with the children?????
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    Spot on, John - somewhat late but at least there is now recognition of that disgrace.
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    There was seldom a day that a ship was not lost or a good man made extinct:

    In Memory of :

    Those Good Men and the women and children, still not Home From The Sea and those of all lost from this world with “No Known Grave but the Sea”. We shall Remember Them.

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    Default “Remember Them” All.

    On this day I remember the loss of a relative James Greenway(WW2), his brother Thomas Greenway (WWI) and son of Thomas - James Joseph Greenway (1938) all men of Kinsale, Merchant Seamen and all lost to the Oceans Deep. Hopefully they meet now at "Fiddlers Green" We also further remember Nora (Greenway) Davies a daughter to Thomas, SISTER TO James Joseph and a Lady of Kinsale, resident of both Barry Wales and Moroopna, Australia. I further remember Captain William Thomas Care of Barry, Glamorgan, South Wales and the men of the SS. Tregenna, Further thoughts are for all MN and the many lost everyday, although it has become customary to “Remember Them” September the 3rd and 11/11, this particular year gives chance also to Remember All further on 23rd September.

    The Big Remembrance will occur, a 24 hour Act of Remembrance on World Maritime Day is a further date to “Remember Them” although we should not replace the fact that the Merchant Navy was there Every Day’

    “LEST WE FORGET”

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    Regarding the loss of the Athenia and Fritz J. Lemp A much bigger fate was to befall Commander Lemp on 9th May 1941, which would alter the course of the war at sea.

    On 9th May 1941 U-110 under the command of Fritz J Lemp (Athenia sinking), attacked a convoy along with U-201. After being spotted by the Escort ships Aubretia, Bulldog, and Broadway the U-110 was forced to the surface after depth charges were dropped. Believing he was about to be rammed Lemp ordered his boat to be abandoned. At the very last moment the Bulldog turned to evade the collision when her Commander realized he could capture the U-boat. The story goes that Lemp dove into the sea and tried to board his vessel to scuttle her, and was subsequently shot and drowned. On board U-110 was one of the latest Enigma machines.
    "Across the seas where the great waves grow, there are no fields for the poppies to grow, but its a place where Seamen sleep, died for their country, for you and for peace" (Billy McGee 2011)

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    NOT A LOT WOULD KNOW THAT: Thanks Deep Sea for another informative post.

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