Voyage Plan

[happy daze john in oz]

As long as I am not taken by some Māori to go into the cooking tub all will be well.

[Des Taff Jenkins]

John
Don't laugh, the Maoris are on the warpath as the Govt tries to alter the Treaty of Waitangi you may end up in the pot.
I asked a Maori mate of mine once if he ever tasted white-man, he said no, but his Dad let him stick his finger in the gravy.
Enjoy your trip mate
Cheers Des

[Gerald Farr]

I just came across this thread recently, I thought someone was having a joke. I think it was John Cassels who said that the Old Man gave the Second Mate the next port of call, asked for an ETA and left you to it. All of our ships carried a fairly comprehensive folio of world charts and we would attempt to pick up any if we were going to some out of the way port. I also kept the full folio of chart corrections up to date picking up the Admiralty Chart Corrections as often as we could. I know one of our Second Mate's who only corrected any charts he was using so if you followed him you knew that most of the charts were not up to date and we never had the luxury of having our folio exchanged with a fully updated set in our home port. Only once did I hear of one of our ship's chart folio going ashore whilst in drydock to be completely corrected. On tankers in port the second and third Mates worked six on and six off so you had to ready the charts for sailing and round the coast in your off-time and then the Old Man would probably give it the once over. And the other thing, what on Earth are tracing corrections? Well I'm glad I left the sea when I did, when you could make your own decisions, the Captain ran the ship without a Ship's committee or whatever it was (admittedly there were good ones and bas....s who needed something to keep them in line) but again I must have been lucky as most of those I sailed with were good ones. As someone else said on this thread, there are many things that have been forgotten through lack of use, I found my last sight book not long ago and looked at it and wondered how I worked out our position every day, those sixty years have just flown by.

[James Curry]

When I retired in 2013 as an engineer, never had so many old charts in al my time at sea for the making of pimp casing gaskets and other such things. Certainly in the LNG ships the bridge just used electronic charts? Not even sure there was a sextant onboard. Maybe the Oldman had one in his Cabin.

[John Arton]

Gerald
Attached is an example of a chart correction tracing that you overlay on the chart using the lat/long reference on the tracing to mark the position on the chart by using a compass point to prick through the tracing to mark on the chart the position of the correction to be made or the insertion of a new feature.
Rgds
J.A
https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...obile&ie=UTF-8

[John Cassels]

I just came across this thread recently, I thought someone was having a joke. I think it was John Cassels who said that the Old Man gave the Second Mate the next port of call, asked for an ETA and left you to it

This is what I experienced , can't speak for others .

[Gerald Farr]

Yes John, that was the way it worked back in the day. Wouldn't have wanted it any other way, why would you need a Certificate if you had to have a Voyage Plan approved each time you left port. This reply is to John Cassels, I hadn't realised I was replying to two Johns until starting the second reply, sorry.

[Gerald Farr]

Hi John (Arton), Thanks for the info regarding tracing corrections, probably makes it quicker but can't see that it makes it any more accurate. A mapping pen, a bottle of purple ink, a pair of dividers and a parallel rule accompanied by a copy of the Admiralty Chart Corrections was all I ever had or needed. Sometimes I think that we have change purely for the sake of change or am I just becoming a grumpy old man? Thanks again, I think we were at sea in the simpler, more sensible times.

[Ivan Cloherty]

I think we were at sea in the simpler, more sensible times.

More often than not simpler is more sensible in any situation, have served on ships where the only advantage we had over Vasco de Gama was an engine, but we still got there. nothing more satisfying than after an ocean passage of many days (weeks) mostly without sun or stars (North Pacific) was finding the Fairway buoy right ahead, would you get that feeling with GPS? I will never know!

Wish I had had Errol Flynns sextant where he took a sight, looked at the arc and said Latitude abc Longitude xyz

Happy days (mostly!!)

[Tony Taylor]

More often than not simpler is more sensible in any situation, have served on ships where the only advantage we had over Vasco de Gama was an engine, but we still got there. nothing more satisfying than after an ocean passage of many days (weeks) mostly without sun or stars (North Pacific) was finding the Fairway buoy right ahead, would you get that feeling with GPS? I will never know!

Wish I had had Errol Flynns sextant where he took a sight, looked at the arc and said Latitude abc Longitude xyz

Happy days (mostly!!)

and no compliments from the company apart from a bollocking for missing the tide