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26th February 2023, 09:39 PM
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Lent:Garrick and lent Hoshelaga II
The quotes above appear on dads payment and victual ledger. Has anybody any idea what they represent or mean.
Lent:Garrick appears twice
Lent:Hoshelaga II then [sic] in brackets
Also and sorry but STO Gladstone Dock
STO Gourock also
Any help would be appreciated
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26th February 2023, 10:28 PM
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Re: Lent:Garrick and lent Hoshelaga II
Hi John,
This looks very much like a Royal Navy service record transcription. P&V ledgers are also RN documents.
HMCS HOCHELAGA II was a Royal Canadian Navy shore accounting base - HMCS HOCHELAGA* - For Posterity's Sake
STO is an abbreviation for Sea Transport Officer.
Are you able to add the document or part of for context please?
I suspect probably RN DEMS gunner.
Regards
Hugh
Last edited by Hugh; 26th February 2023 at 10:38 PM.
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26th February 2023, 11:05 PM
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Re: Lent:Garrick and lent Hoshelaga II
Will add more tomorrow
Yes dad was gunner DEMS throuout the WW2
If you look up Alfred Langton there are details of the ships and voyages and the time the ship was sank and dad was rescued. Thank the Lord.
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27th February 2023, 11:58 AM
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Re: Lent:Garrick and lent Hoshelaga II
How do you add a mobile phone image to this page
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27th February 2023, 12:06 PM
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You are right I paid my £30 and filled out the forms on line as dads paper work only told us shore bases for his duty. The information sent back was good and thanks to national archives have found out from free downloads ships captains places and voyages with dates that match the report sent. You are right it is extracted from payment and victuals ledgers and put in a table. So How do I add a image to you
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27th February 2023, 01:21 PM
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Re: Lent:Garrick and lent Hoshelaga II

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So How do I add a image to you
Have a read here John -
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27th February 2023, 07:11 PM
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How do you add a mobile phone image to this page
Hi John
You just have to save the Image from your Phone to your Computer , send it via Bluetooth.
Once that is done just upload as a normal Picture, but remember to resize it to the site Limit, otherwise it will be rejected
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27th February 2023, 08:49 PM
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27th February 2023, 09:13 PM
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think I have managed it please let me know.
The SS waroonga was the ship in convoy from Halifax/New York to liverpool code HX 231 date hit 5/4/1943 hit a second time and sank 6/4/1943 !9 lossed but 113 saved.
Dad joined the ship 14/9/1942 sailed from Belfast Lough to Bahia then accross to south africa then fremantle adelaide Melbourne sydney Balboa through panama canal on to Guantanamo bay upto Newyork then North Atlantic crossing in the above convoy. survivors were picked up by HMS Loosestrife and Joel R Poinsett and dropped off at Londonderry. 9/4/1943
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think I have managed it please let me know.
The SS waroonga was the ship in convoy from Halifax/New York to liverpool code HX 231 date hit 5/4/1943 hit a second time and sank 6/4/1943 !9 lossed but 113 saved.
Dad joined the ship 14/9/1942 sailed from Belfast Lough to Bahia then accross to south africa then fremantle adelaide Melbourne sydney Balboa through panama canal on to Guantanamo bay upto Newyork then North Atlantic crossing in the above convoy. survivors were picked up by HMS Loosestrife and Joel R Poinsett and dropped off at Londonderry. 9/4/1943
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28th February 2023, 11:07 AM
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Re: Lent:Garrick and lent Hoshelaga II

Originally Posted by
john langton
The quotes above appear on dads payment and victual ledger. Has anybody any idea what they represent or mean.
Lent:Garrick appears twice
Lent:Hoshelaga II then [sic] in brackets
Hi John,
[sic] after HOSHELAGA II simply means that it was transcribed from the record exactly as you see it with an error or unconventianal spelling. In layman's terms it means that the spelling mistake in the name has been retained in the transcription
i.e. written as HOSHELAGA II but should be HOCHELAGA II.
I was hoping you could copy the entry for GARRICK for me?
The senior survivor of a sunken ship usually made a Survivor's Report to the Admiralty Trade Division. There is one for WAROONGA held at Kew in ADM 199/2145 Page 16. I have many Survivor's Reports but unfortunately not this one.
Regards
Hugh
Last edited by Hugh; 28th February 2023 at 11:14 AM.
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