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    I am trying to find details of a discharge book for a pal, whose Dad was in MN around 1915? as an engineer.

    All the information I have is as follows:

    Name: Llewellyn Jenkins
    DOB 24/8/1897 Aberystwyth died 11/3/1988
    Discharge Book No 935837
    ID Cert 118570
    Series 137350
    Card Type CRIO

    Any information regarding this person would be appreciated, ships sailed in etc.

    Regards, Glyn.

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    Hi Glyn
    Your best bet is to apply for his CR10 through the Southampton Maritime Archives, as they should hold the CR10 Records there. Send them an Email first and ask them if they have the File!
    Cheers

    Central index of Merchant Seamen (southampton.gov.uk)

    There is a Pointer to this Link at Family Search , but i dont know what it will actually show, so its hit and miss, and of course will cost you??

    Register of seamen and indexes to registers BT 113, 114, 116 etc, including BT 112, 119... | The National Archives

    At FMP a paid Sub site there is also a link for him! CR10





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    Rather dissapointing , thought there may be more on his CR10. Anyway saves for paying for hardly anything! Wonder if there would be more at the Sothampton Archives??
    Unless of course he nly had a short Service which is highly possible? With Training ??? Possibly a Year or so ??

    Ship in question was the Ammon 4448 Ton.

    There are Crew Lists for it if needed at

    Crew List Index Search Results (mun.ca)

    Also at

    Crew List Index Project (Maritime History Project)
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    To far North to be one of mine.
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    Do know a Jenkins who finished up as a Barrier Reef Pilot But was born a lot of years after yours. Des your one of the few Welshmen I have met not called Dai , how did you get away with that one. Or is Des the English version.? JS
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    Hi John.
    I may have said this before, when I was born I could have fitted into a pint jug, {no beer in it ] My birth wasn't registered for two weeks, it certainly didn't register with me until one of the staff at the Club said I must have been still born, or not expected to survive, well i did so my parents were caught out for a name, probably said oh; just call him Desmond in case. the only one in the family of six kids with a single name.
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    Could of been worse they could of called you Destry , with reference to the pint jug and your rejuvenation from the same, after the movie Destry Rides Again, Think Audie Murphy was Destry ? He was I believe the most decorated soldier in the American armed forces after the war. Pity you didn’t still have a similar pint jug , you could tell your story and no doubt someone would fill it up with beer for you every week at the RSL ., cheers JS
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    Lets please stay on course with the Topic! These replies do not help with an enquiry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Vernon View Post
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    Ship in question was the Ammon 4448 Ton.
    ss AMMON 142930 Built Flensburg 1914 for Kosmos Line 1919 - Ammon, op.by Br.Govmt,London- war reparations from Kosmos Line,Hamburg- : 1920 sold to Hain SS Co.Ltd,St.Ives,Renamed Trewinnard: 1924 sold to Federal S.N. Co., London renamed Pakipaki, 1933 scrapped. 7,233 grt

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    Medals issued Jenkins L. Born 1897 Disc. 935837 RS2 ( ID Number) 118570

    Mercantile Marine Ribbon issued 13/11/20 (Looks like the date?)
    British Medal Ribbon do

    Mercantile Marine Medal issued 23/9/21
    British Medal issued do

    No clasp issued!

    Served under Regulation T124

    At the beginning of the war the Royal Navy realised that it would not be able to man all the auxiliary vessels it required and so a number of officers and men of the Merchant Navy agreed to serve with the Royal Navy under the T.124 agreement, which made them subject to Naval discipline while generally retaining their Merchant Navy rates of pay and other conditions.
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