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17th July 2022, 09:21 AM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
hi john sabourn #9
good morning, im definitely sure the anchor was a admiralty pattern, as he told me he swears by the holding power, and that they will not break out of the sea-bed unless forced to do so, i also believe he still has it with the bitter end of the anchor rode welded to his safe at home and the anchor buried below his new round-house in the garden,
tom
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17th July 2022, 10:09 AM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
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thomas michael
hi john sabourn #9
good morning, im definitely sure the anchor was a admiralty pattern, as he told me he swears by the holding power, and that they will not break out of the sea-bed unless forced to do so, i also believe he still has it with the bitter end of the anchor rode welded to his safe at home and the anchor buried below his new round-house in the garden,
tom
dont like the new roundhouse in the garden ......cant hide anything in the corners .....bit like a synagogue methinks.....r683532
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thomas michael
hi john sabourn #6
good evening, i suppose cappy must have bought a ( shark-skin suit,) as he swallowed the anchor just after that and started his sole trading,
tom
Now that is a red herring and im not codding
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17th July 2022, 01:14 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
#9 That will be a Stevpris, need a big mouth to swallow that.
https://intermoor.com/wp-content/upl...evpris_Mk6.pdf
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17th July 2022, 02:06 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
#14 Is that what they called them , never stopped to ask their name as they chased me up the deck. JS
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17th July 2022, 03:26 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
Is that why the attached penant wires had chain chasers, Seriously though I always admired the guys working on the decks of the supply boats handing these montrosities especially in bad weather.
Here is a pic in good weather I saw guys working the same in winter at night in the rain with the ship rolling tough job!
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17th July 2022, 07:28 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
Originally Posted by
thomas michael
hi john sabourn #6
good evening, i suppose cappy must have bought a ( shark-skin suit,) as he swallowed the anchor just after that and started his sole trading,
tom
Finally found his plaice in life.
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17th July 2022, 08:33 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
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j.sabourn
#1 The Arisaig was an ore carrier and was on BISCO charter which has been discussed already . Many ships went to Murmansk , I did 3 in a row at one time.... . There are others on site who will have been on the Arisaig but as far as I know she was a basic ore carrier, if remember correctly from the ore carrier radio schedule she was one of the smaller ones built for Port Talbot discharge of most cargoes . JS
Just getting back to the Denholms/Scottish ore carriers for a moment.I see,as far as I can tell there were two 6,990 grt sisters built at Lithgows,Port Glasgow,the ARISAIG in 1957,and the MORAR IN 1959. The ARISAIG is noted as Diesel engined in Miramar ,but her sister MORAR as a GTV (Gas Turbine Vessel.)
I saw an old thread in a forum on another site(Ships Nostalgia) about the Arisaig in which they were talking about unreliability of the 'turbine gasifiers',and thought they were talking about how the turbines were replaced by diesel engines. So was the Arisaig originally GTV ,not diesel or was it the Morar,which they were talking about that had them converted to diesel?
ARISAIG was broken up at Faslane,Scotland in May 1972.
Does anybody know?.Just wondered....
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17th July 2022, 09:23 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
#16 The holding power of the standard Admiralty anchor can be attributed to that anchor chain especially in a poor holding ground. The friction between the weight of the chain and the sea bed attributes to its holding power.
Now a Bruce anchor more of a bucket shape for half its weight was designed for digging in to the bottom and weight for weight was said to have a third more holding capabilities. It had to as usually was attached direct to the wire , and was the usual mooring device on smaller vessels doing 4 point moors, such as your drillships to enable them to lay the anchors themselves an example of this was the ‘ Mariner’ a Dutch drill ship I brought down from Singapore to Oz , also the DSVs I was on. Rigs and such with the big anchors that JG has shown .Had to be placed in their anchorage position by the supply boat . The people. Doing this job usually got a bonus of 5 pounds per anchor up or down , JS
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17th July 2022, 09:38 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
#17 Until he got p####d as a newt every Saturday night . JS
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18th July 2022, 08:08 PM
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Re: Arisaig Greenock July 71-Sept 71
#18 It was the Morar that had gas turbine engines. Some info below from a Denholms News 1958 ( I was six at the time).
#19 You are right about supply boats placing the rig anchors in positon normally eight anchors for a semi sub rig. The Stevpris in the photo have a geater holding power that the Bruce and that is why eventually all the rigs I was on, and others, changed to them. The fluke angle could also be adjusted depending on the the nature of the sea bed. They were bugger to run as they had to have with the fluke pointing down when laid on the sea bed.
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