norwegian seaman

[cappy]

guess this is for my good friend marion......marion my grandmother jane ann watt lost her father on the ss egyptian prince from the yellow fever caught in pernambuco in the late 18oos ......he was chief officer wiliam watt ...ss egyptian prince .....i believe my gran and her brother were taken in i suppose with an other family of which there was also a daughter or could have been a half sister in a second marriage ......she was always known to me as auntie etta.......she married a norwegian seaman an AB i believe ......his name was erling berntsen or berndsen they lived in lord st south shields number 12 .......he was in sailing ships and some of his models were much sort after with such fine workmanship ......i know he was in not good health and was told he was in a sailing vessel made to heave to in WW11which was then sunk.....i do not no if that is true or i may be mislead ....but i believe any way he served in WW11im sure at this time you have many other things to mind ....but if poss i would be interested in any info you could possibly unearth ..i recall going to his funeral in the late 60s ....like so many in those times i believe he died of TB.....i no not his place of birth only he was norske......please only do so in your own time as i am not in a rush .....and know you have a lot to deal with at this time anyway best wishes and regards cappy

[cappy]

guess this is for my good friend marion.......but i believe any way he served in WW11im sure at this time you have many other things to mind ....but if poss i would be interested in any info you could possibly unearth .....and know you have a lot to deal with at this time anyway best wishes and regards cappy

sorry marion funeral was late 50s not 60s

[Doc Vernon]

Hi cappy
Did he have any other first name that you are aware of, as only ones that come up that may point to him are

Martin Berntsen Able Seaman Born 1856 Age 45 Norway on a Foreign Ship in 1902 Also possibly on a Ship Juanita 1881 and B Hilton from Yarmouth Nova Scotia.
Will keep looking as well though!
Cheers

PS There is a Crew list for the Egyptian Prince Built in the 1879 at the Maritime Division of Records at Canadian University .

https://mha.mun.ca/mha/holdings/view...icial_No=80556

[Doc Vernon]

Name:	Erling Jordan Berntsen
Event Place:	United Kingdom
Birthplace:	Norway
Birth Year:	1898

Baptism:

Date: 1899

Place: Nøtterøy, Vestfold, Norway


Odin Amandus Berntsen (Father)
Born 19 Aug 1861 in Laurvig, Norway

Guessing this may be him cappy! But to find Records ?
Cheers

Sure Marian may come up with something more

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Cappy.
Can't put a name to it but there was a sailing ship in the second world war that was stopped; the crew were told to abandon, and she was sunk. Couldn't have been by someone who loved those lovely ships.
Des

[cappy]

hi doc guess that could be him ...the dates are about right ...thanks for the effort .....laugh at his fathers forename ODIN.....he could have been a viking 600 years earlier bet he new JWS same time lol ....cappy

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Will have a wee look Cappy and come back to you tomorrow night, you know a like a challenge

aye marion and rarely beaten iether in your challenges ......cheers cappy with respect

[cappy]

Hi Cappy.
Can't put a name to it but there was a sailing ship in the second world war that was stopped; the crew were told to abandon, and she was sunk. Couldn't have been by someone who loved those lovely ships.
Des

well des the bit about the sailing vessel was often spoke about but ......a bit of a tall tale it might have been as the family always joked and thetales gave not much option but to go to sea ....do laugh at the odin bit i guess its like the spanish giving there children the name jesus......regards cappy

[Doc Vernon]

Found this cappy it may help!
Chees

TNA_MSEA_BT349_02_11_021165.jpg

Berntsen E.JPG

Discharge number	R 28600
Card type	CR1
Archive	The National Archives
Series	BT349

irst name(s) Erling J

Year Of Birth 1899

Year Of Death 1964

Year 1964

Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Location Sunderland, Durham, England

[cappy]

marion that is so interesting ....showing where my gran grew up i suppose they were gaudians for her and her brother after there father died.....i will digest all and cannot thank you enough ....ettie died in the 70s in shields so i cannot see any tye up in liverpool ......i think it was the ist time i heard the word alziemers when she passed .......you have tied up a lot of loose ends ...if you could find any other vessels i would be very grateful .......cheers cappy

[Doc Vernon]

cappy
Besides what is showing with names so far here are a few more names to go with the Numbers on his Document

136798 Arranmore 1915 /Arranmead 1920/ Middlemoor 1922


145527 Steelville 1923 Changed to Francis Dawson in 1937 then Empire Tyne 1941 then Inchcrag 1947.


146613 Castlemoor 1922

123633 Tiverton 1906

85277 Rugbeian 1904

148070 Selvistan 1924

110127 Saxonstar Built 1899

148048 Waziristan 1924


Cheers