Time used at sea.

[j.sabourn]

Des even in the 60s and possibly long before Canada used to practice the clean waters bit. The normal practice as you know was to have a number of 40 gallons drums for use as garbage containers these were usually lashed outside the rail .On arrival Montreal these containers had to be inboard , and if empty the ship was fined straight away for the probability you had dumped garbage on the river transit, you were also fined if these drums were not inboard of the rail. Going further up the seaway and into the Lakes the rules there were extremely strict , the water we used to use as our Domestic supply , there were no outboard discharges from the ship and woe betide any infringement of the rules. This was 70 years ago at least. So any laws being made today as such are all along way behind Canada, who were practicing them before a lot on this site were born. JS

Just seen the previous post and thought it was your birthday , have checked up and cannot see that it is. So its a waste of time wishing you Happy Birthday. Just try and keep sane like we all do. Cheers JS

[Keith at Tregenna]

July 20.

K.

[happy daze john in oz]

See what now comes off a cruise ship at the end of a voyage.
All neatly packed by various machines on board.
It is hard to believe that much can be accumalated in two weeks.
Empty bottles in numbers you would never believe.

[Paul Kirk]

That’s because it’s time to have a beer or break out the gin and tonic.

The most important time of the day is when the sun is over the yardarm John. JS

[Lewis McColl]

I cannot remember the last time I sailed on a ship that did not have a compacter, a plastics shredder and an incinerator. All plastics landed ashore.

[j.sabourn]

Your in a different time zone than most on here Lewis. But as said there are a lot of ships that don’t have all these convenience aids. JS

[Lewis McColl]

Sorry John I am only in a different time zone because I am in the UK and you are in Australia, When did you retire. I think you will find things have moved on considerably. Perhaps if some vessels are rock dodging and not actually venturing very far from there home 3rd world ports things may be different.
I remember as far back as 1987? the first time on the British Skill we were in Japan. As soon as we tied up along side and our OWS did not conform to the latest Marpol regs(we were going to Dry dock after discharge) the Japs placed a containment boom around the ship and also plugged the Bilge line over board discharge pipe from the seaside. On completion BP were told never to come back to Japan until all Marpol and Japanese Regs and the ship was compliant with said regulations. What tonnage were the vessels you sailed on in the latter years of your time at sea. When was the last time as master or Ch Off did you have to get a ship through a USA coast guard inspection. Not an easy task even on a new build. The first time I went to the USA on the BP LNG carrier British Trader (2002) to Lake Charles, Louisiana, we anchored off and the Coast guard spent 12 hours going over the ship and through the ships certificates. Testing Fire alarms , Gas alarms Deck, Deluge fire system. Emergency Generators Life boat engines , Emergency fire pumps!! When they were happy they said they would escort us to the berth. The master told them fine but we will not be able to leave the anchorage for at least 6 hours because of the 12 hour delay and the constant alarm tests we were now in breech of our hours of work and were legally required to take a rest period and get some sleep. Next morning when we picked up anchor we had an escort of two tugs one leading, one astern following, three coast guard Ribs with machine guns mounted and manned. We also had a Coast Guard Helicopter who kept flying over the ship being a pain in the ****. It was suggested that the chopper did not fly to close to the ship as the cargo tank pressures were slowly increasing because we were now running on dual fuel so not burning so much gas. If we had a cargo tank fart/vent the resulting gas cloud and a hot Chopper exhaust in the area could possibly be a problem for the choppers well being, they buggered off sharpish after they were given that advice by the US ships pilot.

[Keith Tindell]

Not proud of how we disposed off stuff when i was at sea, but it was the norm on all ships. I remember i was peggy on the Stirling Castle 1958, and the rosie was emptied by the well deck shute, straight into the dock while we were along side. Later on the old trampers, 45 gallon drum full of rubbish on a handy billy over the stern, straight over the side as soon as we left harbour. God knows how much dunnage i have dumped at sea,

[Lewis McColl]

Oh so true Keith, and don't forget the thunder box but think that was only at sea. Thankfully I never had the pleasure.

[cappy]

Dont forget the west coast ensigns keith ......by god you had to have balls i would think to sit on one of those when she was rolling a bit ....