Containers lost overboard

[Des Taff Jenkins]

My neighbor showed me a video of containers hanging over the side being unloaded in an EU port.

These could not be taken off in the manner I describe in an earlier post.
So a barge was brought along side and the lashings cut, the containers then droped into the barge.

Hi John.
That is one good way of losing a container and barge.
Des

[John Arton]

Here is a picture of the deck of the One Apus after the deck stow went AWOL.
Looking at pictures of her on delivery, the lashing gantry's on deck don't seem as high as those on the MSC vessel that was shown being built in less than 12 months, the MSC gulana? So it would appear that the Apus was reliant on twistlocks to secure more upper tiers rather than lashing bars.
https://www.marineinsight.com/wp-con...containers.jpg
Rgds
J.A.

[Des Taff Jenkins]

HI John.
What a great camera shot, I could just imagine being on board and a gale warning being issued. I'm glad I went to sea when ships were ships.
Des

[happy daze john in oz]

Just looks as if someone dropped a load of Lego blocks.
But how did they manage to get the ship into port with that load?

But containers over the side good for us here in Oz.

The Chinese make then from steel which comes from Iron ore from Oz.

[Ivan Cloherty]

The Chinese make them from steel which comes from Iron ore from Oz.

50 ships loaded with Australian iron ore currently barred from entering Chinese ports until political problems solved, each demanding an apology from the other, China has also banned the import of Australian wines, apparently about 20% of your production, the economic sword is being wielded no matter how you dress it up.

[j.sabourn]

One has to look a bit further when one looks into the Chinese way of thinking. Like two ships are never 100% the same , so are governments , what may appear to some as gross extortion to a China using extortion and may be the correct way to them to do business . China for century’s has had a very conflicting series of different types of government if one can call them that, from warlords to different western countries using them as a convenience to certain types of trade , and if one reads Chinese history one can see how they have arrived at the place they are now at.The last time I was in China was in 1976 and was the end of one era and the start of another. Mao was dead and his wife in gaol.apart from a few taxis on the road , the rest of the motor traffic was government cars , the red guards were being wound down and the West saw it as a signs of change. There was one thing in that period that I admired the Chinese for and that was a simple thing like tipping for services , you could not tip a taxi driver for instance. They appeared to be a very moral society. Change scenes and go to the US at the same time , and there tipping was practically compulsory. I would imagine it helped their Economy by reducing wage levels , as the service industries alone were taxed on tips they were supposed to have received whether they did or not. So straight away you have two different ways of life. What the system today in China is I haven’t got a clue. But during my time with Chinese crews I found them very true to their morals and were very honourable if you were the same with them. I have nothing against the Chinese , what goes on in Politics none of us know as have to rely on a media who only want to tell earth shattering stories to earn some reporters trophy. JS

PS I hope Cappy sees the moral of this story and stops insisting I owe him 1/3d. JS

[j.sabourn]

That’s a Romeo Bill and not a Roger as Hollywood would have you believe. JS
#11
Just looked at book and have no discharge for the period you mentioned . As was permanently on the Clansman then . Left for leave on the 8.12 78 . whilst on leave used to do a bit of relieving on the supply boats and not always got a discharge previous to the Clansman however was on the Jarl but working out of Ireland. So you are probably right otherwise..The initials don’t match up in my memory . C.S. Would do have been more to my thinking. Cheers JS

[happy daze john in oz]

China today is a very different place to that of the last century.

The Chinese in the cities, and to some extent the rural regions, have become westernized in may ways.
They drive western style cars, live in modern, though small, apartments and are more aware of the rest of the world than ever.

The tariff imposed on wines from Oz has according to one Chinese reporter has had little effect, they still prefer the wine from Oz to that of other countries.

[j.sabourn]

#19.. For a chinaman in 1976 to have a private motor car John was unthinkable , Shanghai was a city of bicycles , I can still heat their bells all going at the same time. So if motor cars have replaced the bicycle , then they must have had a mind change in their government to allow the imperial westerners mode of luxury travel to implode on their world. Fings ain’t wot they used ter be. But then again in 1976 it was rare to see the average Englishman owning his own motor. It was 1967 I bought our first second hand car and only because I earned the money outside the UK. My parents never had a phone in the house until about 1990 and then my bro. Living at home put it in , for his own benefit . England was never a lap of luxury style when I lived there, it might be now but it is not so long back where most had to struggle, and now they want to give it all away to the poor in other society’s. JS

[John Arton]

A bit more information on how containers get lost overboard.
Rgds
J.A.
https://www.seatrade-maritime.com/op...ntainer-stacks