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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie Green View Post
    My Granddad told us Sidney was in the Merchant Navy rather than the Royal Navy. I've never thought to question that to be honest.


    A key to some could be the uniform, could you upload the pic to here or I can private message with my contact details.

    K.

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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

    I will dig the photo out this evening and try and upload it. Thanks again for your help.

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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

    Hi Keith,

    I can't upload the photo so if you could PM me your contact details I'll see if I can attach it to an email. Thanks

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    No worries, endeavour to do all pos to assist.

    K.

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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

    Can anyone assist with any info on the uniform below.

    The stripes on the arm etc.

    Regards, Keith.

    Pos Doc can enlarge the pic ?



    Naval C. 1917 - 1919.
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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

    With the Four Chevrons is that not perhaps Merchant Marine,and the stripes on the Trousers as well. It is known that the amount of Chevrons were awarded for length of Service according to what I have seen,four is something of so many Years ???
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    overseas_service_chevrons3-182x300.jpg eg Here of one in the Army with same Chevrons

    The stripe was first authorised under Army Order 4 of 1918, which was published on 20 December 1917:
    His Majesty the King has been graciously pleased to approve of the award of chevrons to denote service overseas undertaken since 4th August 1914
    .”

    Who was eligible?

    The Army Order listed eligible categories of servicemen and women, who would wear the chevrons subjects to conditions shown below. The eligible categories were:

    • Officers and soldiers of the Regular Army, Special Reserve and Territorial Force, and officers Naval ratings and Royal Marines of the Royal Naval Division;
    • Officers, soldiers and followers of the Indian Army and Indian Army Reserve;
    • Officers and soldiers of Oversea Forces;
    • Native troops in East and West Africa;
    • Members of Queen Alexandra’s Imperial Military Nursing Service, retired members of the Army Nursing Service, members of Queen Alexandra’s Military Nursing Service for India, the Territorial Force Nursing Service and Oversea Nursing Services;
    • Members of the Women’s Army Auxiliary Corps;
    • Civilians attached to British forces in an official capacity;
    • Native Labour Corps;
    • Chinese Labour Corps;
    • Members of officially recognised Voluntary Aid Detachments;
    • Personnel working under the Joint War Committee of the British Red Cross Society and the Order of St John of Jerusalem, and under the St Andrew’s Ambulance Association, if under the direct authority and supervision of the War Office;
    • Personnel of the Women’s Legion employed under War Office authority.

    How did a man or woman qualify?

    The Army Order specified the conditions for qualification:

    • the date for the award of the first chevron will be the date the individual left the United Kingdom in the case of those who proceeded from home; and the 5th August 1914 in the case of those serving abroad on that date. In the case of oversea troops the date of leaving their own country, or where employed in local operations, the date of crossing the frontier or that on which they commenced to take part in active operations.
    • Additional chevrons will be awarded for each successive aggregate period of 12 months’ service outside the United Kingdom; the case of overseas troops, away from their own country or within a sphere of active operations.
    • The qualifying service for additional chevrons need not be continuous. It will include periods of leave up to one month where the individual returns overseas at the conclusion of such leave.
    • Periods of absence without leave, in prison or detention, in hospital due to sickness due to avoidable causes, or in captivity as a prisoner of war, will be excluded when calculating the twelve months required to qualify for an additional chevron.
    • Draft conducting officers and others sent overseas on duty of a temporary nature … are not eligible for the award.




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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

    Full pic: Pos stripes are not on trousers but, part of seating ?



    All thoughts welcomed, Thanks to Julie for sharing.
    please respect the family photo and assist if you can.

    Thanks in advance.

    Regards,

    Keith.
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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

    OK Thanks for that Pic now i see it is part of the Arm of the Seat.
    That makes it a lot better ,so it would be either Merchant Navy or Merchant Marine .
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    Default Re: Sidney Federick Tyrrell Merchant Navy cook 1905 onwards

    Does appear to be similar to: WW1 Overseas Service Stripes

    ?

    K.

    be1264-0.jpg

    https://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/ww1-ov...e-stripes.html

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