Ss queen

[Brenda Shackleton]

Does anyone have a photo of SS QUEEN 123532 registered London. Fisher Alimonda & Co Ltd. Torpedoed 28th June 1918,please?

Also, would a Bosun have had a cap badge? Trying to put things together to commemorate my grandfather who drowned from SS QUEEN. Nicholas Hartley

Thanks
Brenda

[Captain Kong]

Hi Brenda,
The only photos I can find of a `QUEEN` are this one, it appears to be a converted merchant ship into an aircraft carrier, I do not know the date.
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. The Bosuns on Cunard and Canadian Pacific all had a cap with a badge on.

Cheers
Brian

[Brenda Shackleton]

Thanks, Brian.
I don't think this is the right one. SS QUEEN was registered in London 24/1914 so poor lady didn't last very long - just 4 years and then torpedoed in Bay of Biscay
There is a number against the crew names. My g/father is 841658. Do you think it is a Discharge number?
He was the Bosun so presumably no cap badge. I have no photo of him so I was trying to think how best I could commemorate him. Have just got a Bosun's whistle !
Brenda

[John Albert Evans]

Brenda,

I've found the steamer 'Queen' 4956 tons built 1907 Russell & Co. Port Glasgow operated by Rome Seamship Co. Sank 28th June 1918 130 miles off Cape Vilano., Bay of Biscay. Sunk by U-Boat 53 (Hans Rose) Route Cardiff to La Spezia carrying coal and general cargo, casualties 20.
Its on UBOAT.net. site

Sorry cannot find a photo but still looking, let me know if it the same one your look for.
Best of luck,
John

Its on the

[John Albert Evans]

[QUOTE=John Albert Evans;184624]Brenda,

I've found the steamer 'Queen' 4956 tons built 1907 Russell & Co. Port Glasgow operated by Rome Seamship Co. Sank 28th June 1918 130 miles off Cape Vilano., Bay of Biscay. Sunk by U-Boat 53 (Hans Rose) Route Cardiff to La Spezia carrying coal and general cargo, casualties 20.
Its on UBOAT.net. site

Sorry cannot find a photo but still looking, let me know if it the same one your look for.
Best of luck,
John

Just found a photo of the U53.U53.jpg

John

[Hugh]

Brenda,

There is a number against the crew names. My g/father is 841658. Do you think it is a Discharge number?

If it is on the Articles of Agreement then yes it's his Dis A. No.

He was the Bosun so presumably no cap badge.

Merchant seamen didn't have a uniform (only officers). On some of the bigger company ships the QM would wear a cap but I would suggest during WW1 the answer to your question would be no.

Regards
Hugh

[John Albert Evans]

Brenda,
Ive been looking on the Great War Forum. The last post on it I came to was yourself, did you notice that someone there said he had a photo of the Queen and it showed a link. Ive tred to open it without any luck. Perhaps you could follow that up it might help

John

[Brenda Shackleton]

Thanks, Hugh.
I was unsure about the Dis.# as it seemed to be such a big number. Is this an indication of when it was issued ? There is another number underneath his name - 200341. Having transcribed ( still at it !) many Crew Lists I know that numbers can be written all over the place so perhaps this is his number. I don't suppose I can do anything about tracing details of this, can I ? It would be at the bottom of the Bay of Biscay.
Regards
Brenda

[Brenda Shackleton]

Thank you, John
The photo on GWForum was of SS THE QUEEN and she sank in 1916.
I trawled back through SS QUEEN'S history and saw that she started her maritime life as SS SPRINGBURN- no photo of her or any of the sister ships. Found details on U-boat.net along with a picture of Hans Rose ( U-53's Capt. ) He lived to the ripe old age of 84. Lucky man !
regards
Brenda

[Hugh]

Thanks, Hugh.
I was unsure about the Dis.#--Regards
Brenda

Hello Brenda,
Those two numbers may change things. Usually the Dis. A. would be written underneath or above the seaman's name on the Articles. The problem I have is that the Dis A. numbering system didn't start until 1900 and it was only as far as I can ascertain for those employed on Foreign going (F) voyages so if the seaman was employed mainly on the Home Trade (HT) route he most likely didn't have a Dis A book as a paper discharge system was in use.
Do you know when he joined the MN? I have sent you a P.M. asking if you can send me a copy so I can see the context of the numbers within the document and therfore give, I hope, a more informed answer to your questions.

Regards
Hugh