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####female dick inspector in the team in la badges all over herQuote:
Originally Posted by Ivan Cloherty
Never had a short arm inspection in China, as no one allowed ashore, and believe me Cappy, the States is no way like China at all, at least they didn't prod you with rifles in the States no matter how rude or authoritarian they seemed. These guys in China had no hesitation in pulling the trigger if they were in the mood, happened to me on a ballast tank inspection when I refused to undo the vertical manhole in a full forepeak ballast tank, dumb barsteward couldn't understand he would get swamped by 300 tons of water when it was opened, just because he had inspected it when it was empty entering portQuote:
Originally Posted by cappy
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On one of the US Merchant Marine Facebook pages there has been posted a lot of negative comments about Captain Phillips. Their, the crew, opinion he wasn't the hero he was made out to be and the Chief Engineer was. I was wondering if all the former seaman had heard anything like this and their thoughts since we span the globe and there is 1000+ of years experience on this site.
In the Thread http://www.merchant-navy.net/forum/m...hallenges.html I researched that a lot of the crew are suing M<aersk , apparently Captain Phillips put the crew in danger uneccesarily , there is a lot of information on this on te Web , and teh court case is pending .
As Rob says, there were rumblings about this movie being made sometime ago. Someone asked people on this site the possibility of suing the master of this vessel re going into an area he was advised against. I think I replied that would be hard to do as the masters position he doesn't have to take advice that he believes to be wrong or words to that effect. I would of thought that Hollywood would of paid off those who were disgruntled by the story as told Hollywood style. I have not seen the film and have no wish to see, as most things made in Hollywood have strong leanings towards the fairy story line theme. The only true story you are going to get is by the statements made to the authorities by those involved, and I know from experience a lot want to push themselves into the limelight and one usually finds these are the ones who performed least. Cheers JS
The way I see it...A master is responsible for the ship crew and cargo. He can take advice if he wants. In the 60"s they brought out Ocean Routing which was a service a Company had to pay for and it advised the master by radio on sometimes a daily basis on the best way to go so to speak, weather wise, the master could take this advice or not. Most masters I knew chose to make their own way on their own observations and past knowledge. Those on regular North Atlantic runs say Liverpool to New York in the summer months when Ice was expected, some would just go on a rhumb line, the more experienced would maybe go on a composite Great Circle, those foolhardy enough wanting to make a fast passage would go on a Great Circle. For those non Navigators, the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line it is a great circle. Maybe the Titanic was on a Great Circle track. Those who have studied the subject on this site would know. As regards the Maersk boat attacked by pirates, the master probably received advice re pirate activity the same as the case of the weather re Ocean Routing, if he chose not to take that advice it was his decision, and he probably had his own reasons for not doing so. Piracy nowadays ( always has been there) is just another hazard that seamen have to sail with. The likes of the master of the Concordia is an example of to me of a Master deserting his ship, but also by the same token the press releases at the time of him being ordered back by the Coast guard , they have no authority to do this. He had given up command of the vessel when he left either forcefully or accidentally. Maritime Law like all laws is based on precedence( what has happened before and the verdict) to me the Costa Concordia was pure negligence and the Master at the time must bear the responsibility that is his job. The Capt, Phillips affair is purely a money and compensation grab, which America and most other countries now are making the most of. Cheers John S.
I have not seen the film, it was on the video on the planes homeward bound.
Just saw the scenes where the pirates were first observed and then boarded. I had no sound on so didnt hear the conversations. then turned it off. I would watch it it if it was on TV but again as John said , with tongue in cheek, just for the entertainment and ability to critisize the events. [ What would I have done in that situation.]
Hollywood always makes their version of events as it is a commercial venture to them and they Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Cheers
Brian
Just because the Chief Engineer was the real Hero , I expect that they could not get Arnold Swartzenigger to play him , so they got Hanks out to play the Old Man
I saw the film, and its very entertaining and of interest to ex seamen, of course any film *based* on a real incident has little resemblance to the real situation. The part that really interested me was how they got aboard with welded ladders, no mean feat when you see the size of the ships sides on these large boats, it seemed to be filmed in a reasonable sea running as well KT