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23rd January 2014, 10:05 AM
#1
Pilot on board
A ship is coming into Liverpool the pilot is picked up at the bar,from thence on who is in charge of the ship or who is responsible for it's well being sailing down the Mersey.Is it the captain or pilot for insurance purposes.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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23rd January 2014, 10:12 AM
#2
Re: Pilot on board
Hi Jim
as far s I'm aware its the Captain, the pilot's for the local knowledge and advice.
Graham R774640
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23rd January 2014, 10:32 AM
#3
Re: Pilot on board
I was travelling down the St Lawrence river I was on the bridge taking in all the scenery,as I was a guest/passenger on board I had no duties to attend to.We picked up the pilot at Three Rivers,I kept well out of the way by the flag locker so I was'nt realy aware of what was going on.The captain came over to me and said Mr Jim the pilot has asked for a beer,I replied well give him one (I dont know why I said that it was nothing todo with me).The captain went bananas Mr Jim he is not getting beer on my ship anything happens it's my ticket he realy ranted and raved.Apparently the steward came on the bridge and asked the pilot what he would like and he said a couple of cheese rolls and a bottle of beer.I think the captain thought that I was a spy on board and this performance was for me to report back.I was talking to the 2nd mate about it he met the pilot coming aboard he said the pilot smelt of alcohol then.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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23rd January 2014, 12:32 PM
#4
Re: Pilot on board
Originally Posted by
Jim Brady
A ship is coming into Liverpool the pilot is picked up at the bar,from thence on who is in charge of the ship or who is responsible for it's well being sailing down the Mersey.Is it the captain or pilot for insurance purposes.
Regards.
Jim.B.
On every ship it is always 'Master's Orders, Pilot's Advice' I believe the only exception currently in the world is the Panama Canal, but I stand to be corrected. Upon the Pilot boarding an entry is made made in the movement book T M O P A (To Master's Orders and Pilot's Advice) and then entered in the Log book. The Master always has ultimate responsibility for the ship whatever the circumstances. Unless your Italian you can then of course blame the Quartermaster
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23rd January 2014, 12:52 PM
#5
Re: Pilot on board
Does the Manchester Ship Canal have a pilot and his own helmsman what happens there?
Regards.
Jim.B.
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23rd January 2014, 02:27 PM
#6
Re: Pilot on board
Jim, Ivan
At all times the Captain is in charge of his vessel, even with a pilot on board. The only exception being the Panama canal where the master signs to say the pilot is in charge of the NAVIGATION.
Pilots are required to be taken by local port regulations but at any time can be over ruled by the Master or indeed the Officer of the Watch should he feel that the pilots orders are leading the ship into danger. It is the O.O.W duty to monitor the ships passage during pilotage and bring to the Master and/or Pilots attention any doubts that he may have regarding the navigation of the ship.
On the MSC ,apart from certain ships, the role of helmsman has been abolished with the ex. helmsmen becoming pilots. Large ships will take two pilots with one acting as helmsman. Also certain smaller ships may have two pilots dependent upon the layout of the bridge and steering controls and also dependent upon the cargo, I think the small gas carriers have to have two pilots.
rgds
JA
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23rd January 2014, 04:17 PM
#7
Re: Pilot on board
on the arabic suez canal iwas onthe wheel stweard asked the pilot what he would like for dinner he was a egyptian he said roast beef yorkshire pudding roast spuds gravy and h p sause ifell of the wheelit was that comical
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23rd January 2014, 06:12 PM
#8
Re: Pilot on board
going throu panama canal cant rember ship i wass on wheel a usa marine on the bridge machine gun the lot must have been under u sa at the about59 one of the mates said to me if you try to hit the locks he would shoot me best helsman ever never forgot that
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24th January 2014, 12:23 AM
#9
Re: Pilot on board
Post 3 I did not know you was a bridge boy Jim
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24th January 2014, 04:02 AM
#10
Re: Pilot on board
HI William.
Went through the Panama twice lucky to be on the wheel both times going through the locks. Always an armed guard standing alongside with orders to shoot.
Cheers Des
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