Badge Identification

Nothing to do with the merchant Navy , it is "THe Queens Award for Industry " The E is for Export Attachment 11632

The reason I thought it was something to do with Engineers is that I found this badge, a Canadian Navy Engineers Badge, I know the propeller is there but the cog wheel insignia is very similar to our badge and also the E could stand for Engineer on the badge we are looking for

Well done Rob
Only thing is i do think that the E stands for Enterprise!
Here is another similar one with a T (Technological Acchievement)
Cheers

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The only problem with this is the time line. Do we know when the gentleman concerned actually left the sea.? Is it possible there was previously a King's award of export? All seems a little strange at the moment.

Well I never :)

From Wiki
The Queen's Award to Industry, the scheme's original title, was instituted by Royal Warrant in 1965, and first awarded in 1966, and it was only offered to organizations. The recommendations of a review in 1975 led to the scheme becoming The Queen's Awards for Export and Technology, with separate awards for outstanding achievement in each of the two fields. The Queen's Award for Environmental Achievement was added in 1992.^[1] Following a review in 1999, chaired by Charles, Prince of Wales, the three separate Awards were replaced and are now known generically as The Queen's Awards for Enterprise with three broad-based categories for organizations: International Trade, Innovation and Sustainable Development. In 2005, the individual award, The Queen's Award for Enterprise Promotion (QAEP) was added to the programme.^[2]
In 1990 a set of commemorative stamps featuring the Queens Awards for Enterprise was issued by the Post Office.

So those badges are between 1975 and 1999

I also looked at stamps that emblem never appeared on any M.N. Uniforms i looked at, And have never seen it before looks like we have solved your mystery Jan, Thats what we here for hun not much gets past this site Regards Terry. ;)

The chap in question joined as a volunteer in September 1942 and started his training aboard the "Pembroke" and then "HMS Gordon".

Other ships he worked on were

Empire Bittern (March '43 to June '43 - OS)
Highland Chieftan (June '43 to December '43 - OS - from Avonmouth to New York)
Jamaica Planter (January '44 to March '44 - EDH - from Avonmouth to New York)
Empire Cliff (April '44 to October '44 - EDH)
Empire Milner (November '44 to December '44 - EDH - from Avonmouth to New York)
Esperance Bay (January '45 to June '45 - EDH)
Fulham IV (July '45 to July '45 - EDH - this was a coastal cargo vessel)
Ocean Vesper (August '45 to December '45 - EDH)
Empire Balfour (November '45 to December '45 - EDH - Avonmouth, Glasgow, New York)
He was engaged on another ship but the document was too faded to read
Islandmagee (May '46 to June '46 - EDH)
Sea Fisher (June '46 to September '46 - EDH)
Orient City (Engaged [unreadable]. Discharged October '47. On 15 April 1947, he arrived Coos Bay, Oregon from Hong Kong aboard the "Orient City" This looks like a short stop over as on 18 April 1947, again aboard the "Orient City" he arrived at Portland, Oregon from Singapore. On 17 June 1947, he arrived in Seattle, Washington from Hong Kong, China aboard the "Orient City".

On 29 October 1947, he was finally discharged as "no longer required for further service" after serving 24 years in the Merchant Navy.

All working history came from documents held by this chap's daughter, and all information about the ships courtesy of previous contact on this forum. (All Ship Information was sourced by "Gulliver" and Ray Buck from the Forum on Merchant-Navy.net.)

What all this has to do with the badge I am not sure now as it is a "Queens Award" and the man's MN career was pre Queen Elizabeth. So it will remain a mystery until I can find out more about this man from his daughter for whom I am doing this research.

Having said all that - I am truly grateful for all your help.

Jan
xxx

Jan, thank you for thanking the boys, not everybody does that, so you can be assured that it is appreciated by us all, whether or not we contributed anything to help on this particular subject.

Has your friend ever considered that her father may have just purchased the badge because he liked it, a lot of people do that, or maybe he mistook it for a service badge and it reminded him of something, a lot of us do that also. I know I have purchased things in curios shops relating to ships I have never sailed on, but my father served on them. Also on occasions picked up in a shop a mememto of a ship which I surveyed but had no family connection. Maybe it will remain one of those tantalising mysteries never to be solved.

All the best in your endeavours

Hi Jan. I too echo Ivan's comments on acknowledging assistance. It is indeed sadly something that many overlook.

Back to your research project. I have three queries. a) You say that he served 24 years in the Merchant Navy, but you also say that he joined in 1942 and left in 1947??

b) Do you know when the gentleman was born and when he died as that would at least give us a time frame to work with.

c) Do you know what he did for a living after leaving the MN as maybe the badge is somehow linked with that?

This is certainly a mystery and one which I would love to see solved.

I have taken the liberty of seeking help from another MN site which also has many MN historians.