Liverpool Turnaround Terminal.

[Jim Brady]

First cruise ship leaves today however Southampton are still kicking up and are going to Brussel,s to see the European Commission with a view to putting the blocks on Liverpool.I believe that there was an article in the LLoyds List the other day stating that what Liverpool are doing is illegal!!! I wonder did Southampton put them onto this.The cruise business is growing all the time,there should be enough for all ports,Southampton dont mind Liverpool having the facility but we come back to the old moan from them "It's not a level playing field" Incidently both Southampton and Newcastle have had European money spent on them in connection to their respective cruise terminals.Whats that story about people who live in glass houses.

[John Arton]

Tilbury riverside cruise terminal was used by the Polish passenger ships that used to run regulalry to Montreal, the Stephan Batory if my memory serves me right. We used to have drinkies with the crew in Montreal sometimes. That is until one of our container ships (CP Discoverer if I rememeber rightly) suffered an engine failure just after leaving Tilbury Container berths (engineer changing over fro diesel to H.O. forget to open the valves in the correct order, result, no motion lotion to the main engine, no engine) and went headlong into it. CP had to pay a tidy sum of money to the Poles as they could not use the terminal for around a year. I do believe it has been used recently as a cruise terminal again but the last time i passed it in 2008 it was looking a bit shabby.
Regarding Newcastle cruise terminal, no European money is involved in it. The Port of Tyne merely upgraded the quayage and the esisting North Sea ferry terminal to cope with the new Cruise business.
rgds
Capt. John Arton (ret'd)

[Jim Brady]

John,just like Southampton I am not talking about money spent directly on the terminal i am talking of monies spent on the infrastructure which all helps to make a better port.Both cities have had European money spent on them.
Regards.
Jim.B

[wilf stirling]

hi jim i was pleased to see on the news tonight l/pool is up and running again and never mind those mushers moaning they have had good for to long the wildrover

[Keith Tindell]

Steady on old shipmate, us mushers have got a 1st division football team, we are among the elite now!!!!, my tin hat is firmley fixed KT

[Jim Brady]

Keith,1st division how long are you going back???
Regards.
Jim.B

[Kenneth Kenny]

Jim,you are right about Southampton,they don't Liverpool to have a share of cruise liners.We are more packed with more shipping history than them.The Titanic sailed from there but it was registered in Liverpool.During the second world war nearly all the troop ships sailed from Liverpool.We had more Merchant Seaman,and a bigger port and they were always first back to work in any strikes Seaman,or Docks.By the way ask them why Portsmouth don't like them.P.S. My eldest Son married and has lived in Southampton for years.The people are very good,so the top people should give Liverpool the share of the Cruise Liners we deserve it.Ken.

[Graham Payne]

"CLASS" in itallics Graham. We arrived and sailed from there on the P & O liners in the 60's. Some place that was!!!
Rgds
John

Hi John
are you saying it wasn't a High Class Cruise Terminal in the '60s ?
I was there on the Oronsay & Orcades about that time.
I mean it had a British Rail Bar, British Rail Sandwiches, and British Rail Porters what more could a visitor or indeed a Cruise passenger want ?

[Kenneth Kenny]

Hi Graham,over two and half my son that lives in Southampton,invited all the family down there for his Wedding Adv.We all stayed at Jury's Hotel.Next morning Sunday my wife and youngest son and myself walked around to St Mary Stadium,we all walked in to foyer,bloke sitting at the desk said we are closed,we explained we come from Liverpool next minute this man in uniform said my son his Liverpool supporter and goes down there half dozen times a season,we said to him about Jimmy Case, said great friend of his,and the late Alan Ball.Talk for about ten minutes about football.next minute he took a bunch of keys out and said follow me and took us a tour around the ground

[Kenneth Kenny]

Trophy room,and the set up the on to the Football pitch let's us take as many of photo's we like,what great bloke he was, said he was exfootball player himself Bournemouth,we wished Southampton luck,and it's happens.wish them well next season but not against Liverpool or Everton.Ken.