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Hi shipmates Hi Captain Kong You may live in Boltonstan but in Cardiff we have the oldest Mosque in The U.K. and the biggest somalia populaton in the U.K. I live between 4 mosque and a madress { private school for moslem young children no non moslem allowed? The girls and boys are taught in diffrent class rooms and play apart, uniform is traditional for girls cover all and head thing many are put on a mini bus home to school, so have no contact with any one not moslem not allowed in some familys? How will this type of backward bringing up children help the U.K.in the future? and why do Cardiff council allow it? and many young girls never return from summer hoildays due to getting married to strangers in Islamic countrys One of My daughters friend now has two children age 13yrs she was sent on holiday? Born in the U.K.? no rights for woman? not allowed to have any life, the man she was forced to marry was old enough to be her father. What a waste she was a very clever girl, but tradition is very strong?

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Originally Posted by english margaret

like a james bond type of thing, mi6 locked him in the bag expecting him to do the houdini thing ( or bond thing) shaken not stirred.et. al.:cool:

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Now be fair
James Bond had to be chuched out the front of the sub.
+ there was no water in the bath.
Ron the batcave

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Originally Posted by Ron B Manderson

Now be fair
James Bond had to be chuched out the front of the sub.
+ there was no water in the bath.
Ron the batcave

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lol haha:D

[QUOTE=Louis the Amigo;87234]Hi shipmates Hi Captain Kong You may live in Boltonstan but in Cardiff we have the oldest Mosque in The U.K. QUOTE]

Hi Louis my Amigo:

As you are aware, Cardiff has been multi-cultural for a long time, Tiger Bay itself in her prime was a real melting pot:

Locally, all is put down to Merchant Seamen in Wales and a welcome in the hill sides etc.

Much really began with Queen Victoria:

In 1877, Queen Victoria became Empress of India, nineteen years after India became part of the British Empire. Queen Victoria was very interested in India and in 1887, she began to learn the Indian language Hindustani, under the teaching of one of her servants, Abdul Karim.

One page from one of Queen Victoria’s Hindustani diaries. It is thought that Queen Victoria wrote the English text at the bottom; that Abdul Karim then wrote the middle section, with the English text put into the correct word order for the Hindustani translation and that, finally, the Queen wrote the text in Urdu characters.

'I am so very fond of him. He is so good and gentle and understanding… and is a real comfort to me.”

These were the words of Queen Victoria speaking to her daughter-in-law, Louise, Duchess of Connaught, on November 3, 1888, at Balmoral. Perhaps surprising, though, is who she was talking about – not her beloved husband, Albert, who had died in 1861. Nor John Brown, her loyal Scottish ghillie, who in many ways filled the void left by Albert, since Brown had died in 1883.

Instead, Queen Victoria was referring to Abdul Karim, her 24-year-old Indian servant.

LINK: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...companion.html

The largest non-Christian faith in Wales is also the fastest growing faith in the world today, which is *****. In the 2001 Census it had 22,000 members. Many ******s came to south Wales during Cardiff's heyday as the largest coal exporting port in the world and by now they are well established. It is thought that the Yemenis of the city are the oldest ****** community in Britain, dating from the mid to late 19th Century. The first purpose-built mosque was erected in Cardiff in 1947 and the following year Cardiff hosted Britain's first ever ****** conference.

Wales has about 40 mosques, most of which are in Cardiff, with others in Newport, Swansea and Haverfordwest. A college for training ****** clerics has been established in Llanybydder in west Wales.

Hinduism has around 5,000 Welsh members, the same number as Buddhism. The largest proportion of Buddhists is to be found in Ceredigion.

Sikhism has around 2,000 members and the first purpose-built Sikh gurdwara was opened in Cardiff in 1989.

Butetown – "All mixed up, and proud of it!" (Glen Jordan)

Cardiff Docks came about as a site of commerce around the early to mid 19th Century with the arrival of the coal and shipping industries. The earliest residents of the Docklands area were middle-class merchants. This changed as the middle-classes moved out and those employed in the shipping industry moved in. Soon the Cardiff Docks area, or Butetown as it is now known, became home to many different ethnic groups – coming from the 19th Century British Empire countries and involved in providing labour for the ships spreading the businesses of Cardiff Docks to the world.

Today there are still strong traces of the many different ethnic groups which made up Butetown and the area is still a rich source of the history of these people – from the early Irish Labourers who shaped the Docks to the Somali and Yemeni groups who now form the backbone of the community.

Right or wrong and there is much wrong, modern life gives much to complain of, we should not forget as a Nation we started it all:

Some areas cope better than others.

An old flame of mine years ago, from near Battle, Hastings: knew where China etc was etc on the globe, but the word ethnic was a blank till she moved to London.

Hopefully, there are many in the world that are good, it is the bad, not all that should be condemned.

The world is just a great big onion, peel off the skin !

Good is good, bad is evil, in any race.

K.

When are the so called `Good ******s ` going to condemn the Fanatic Islamists , their Silence is deafening.
Cheers
Brian.

Knew an Irish girl years ago, she protected in an argument a virtually unknown A.N. Other Irish girl, who was clearly at fault to all, against her best friend, a Welsh Girl. Her only defence was that the other was Irish. May one day common sense prevail world wide. Meanwhile, choose your friends very Caerphilly.

K.

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Originally Posted by Keith at Tregenna

Knew an Irish girl years ago, she protected in an argument a virtually unknown A.N. Other Irish girl, who was clearly at fault to all, against her best friend, a Welsh Girl. Her only defence was that the other was Irish. May one day common sense prevail world wide. Meanwhile, choose your friends very Caerphilly.

K.

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lol very cheesy

TO: English Margaret:

AN OLD MAP OF THE BRITTANIC ISLANDS:

Showed Wales as Wales and Cornwall as South Wales.

Cymru am Byth.

Brittany, Cornwall and Cymru were the original Brithonic Celts.

All respects to St. Piran.

Legend: St. Piran lit a fire on his black hearthstone, which was evidently a slab of tin-bearing ore. The heat caused smelting to take place and tin rose to the top in the form of a white cross (thus the image on the flag).

The history of Cornwall begins with the pre-Roman inhabitants, including speakers of a Celtic language that would develop into Brythonic and Cornish. Cornwall was part of the territory of the tribe of the Dumnonii which included Devon and parts of Somerset. After a period of Roman rule, Cornwall reverted to rule by independent Romano-British princes and continued to have a close relationship with Brittany, and Wales as well as southern Ireland which neighboured across the Celtic Sea.

Cornwall's Early Medieval history, in particular the early Welsh and Breton references to a Cornish 'king' named Arthur, have featured in such legendary works as Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae, predating later Arthurian legend.

K.


Got a letter from Grandma the other day. She writes:

The other day I went up to a local Christian bookstore and saw a "Honk if you love Jesus" bumper sticker. I was feeling particularly sassy that day because I had just come from a thrilling choir performance, followed by a thunderous prayer meeting, so I bought the sticker and put it on my bumper.

Boy, I'm glad I did! What an uplifting experience that followed!

I was stopped at a red light at a busy cross road, just lost in thought about the Lord and how good He is, and I didn't notice that the light had changed. It is a good thing someone else loves Jesus because if he hadn't honked, I'd never have noticed. I found that LOTS of people love Jesus!

Why, while I was sitting there, the guy behind started honking like crazy, and then he leaned out of his window and screamed, "For the love of GOD! GO! GO! Jesus Christ, GO!" What an exuberant cheerleader he was for Jesus!

Everyone started honking! I just leaned out of my window and started waving and smiling at all these loving people. I even honked my horn few times to share in the love!

There must have been a man from America back there because I heard him yelling something about a "sunny beach."

I saw another guy waving in a funny way with only his middle finger stuck up in the air. Then I asked my teenage grandson in the back seat what that meant. He said that it was probably an Arab good luck sign or something. Well, I've never met anyone from Arabia, so I leaned out the window and gave him the good luck sign back. My grandson burst out laughing; why, even he was enjoying this religious experience!

A couple of the people were so caught up in the joy of the moment that they got out of their cars and started walking towards me. I bet they wanted to pray or ask what church I attended, but this is when I noticed the light had changed. So, I waved to all my sisters and brothers grinning, and drove on through the junction.

I noticed I was the only car that got through the traffic lights before the light changed again and I felt kind of sad that I had to leave them after all the love we had shared, so I slowed the car down, leaned out of the window and gave them all the Arabic good luck sign one last time as I drove away.

Praise the Lord for such wonderful folks!

Love,
Grandma

grandma must have been a saint, classic :clapping2: thanx for the cornish info, I love anything to do with history and archeology, by the way, the cornish patron saint pirran actually came from ireland. In early times after the hunter/gatherers of the nile delta, folk learnt about trading, then built boats, they came to trade for tin and welsh copper in cornwall, egyptian pottery etc have been found here. not sure if this was before or after the bronze age.

St Piran's Day started as one of the many tinners' holidays observed by the tin miners of Cornwall. Other miners' holidays of a similar nature include Picrous Day and Chewidden Thursday. There is little description of specific traditions associated with this day. However, many observers [who?] noted the large consumption of alcohol and food during 'Perrantide'. The day following the St Piran's Day was known by many as 'Mazey Day', a term which has now been adopted by the revived Golowan festival in Penzance. The phrase 'drunk as a perraner' was used in 19th century Cornwall to describe people who had consumed large quantities of alcohol.

According to legend, St Piran was flung into the sea in the 6th Century by the kings of Ireland who were jealous of his healing powers.

Despite having a millstone around his neck, he did not drown - but "floated" across the sea and landed in Cornwall.

Originally, the colour associated with Saint Patrick was blue. Over the years the colour green and its association with Saint Patrick's day grew. Green ribbons and shamrocks were worn in celebration of St Patrick's Day as early as the 17th century.

Saint Patrick is said to have used the shamrock, a three-leaved plant, to explain the Holy Trinity to the pagan Irish, and the wearing and display of shamrocks and shamrock-inspired designs have become a ubiquitous feature of the day.

In the 1798 rebellion, to make a political statement, Irish soldiers wore full green uniforms on 17 March in hopes of catching public attention.

The phrase "the wearing of the green", meaning to wear a shamrock on one's clothing, derives from a song of the same name.

Saint David's day (Welsh: Dydd Gŵyl Dewi) is the feast day of Saint David, the patron saint of Wales, and falls on the 1st of March each year. The first day of March was chosen in remembrance of the death of Saint David. Tradition holds that he died on that day in 589.

The date was declared a national day of celebration within Wales in the 18th century.

Hence;

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K.