Wives On Board

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Originally Posted by Jim Brady

As we are told to keep off the wives only thread I would like to get through to Lin via this.If I was engineers steward and four engineers wives were on board would this mean that I would have four less cabins to look after?
Regards.
Jim.B.

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Hi Jim

Well this is a point. I was never one to be in the hierarchy in my every day life. The situation was kind of forced upon me due to protocol, but I have to say I had a very good rapport with the steward who took care of my cabin. He got quite insulted if I made my own bed. We had this understanding. If I got out of bed late then I made the bed. He was Chinese and a really nice guy. I treated him with utter respect and in return I got all kinds of gifts bestowed upon me - During the voyage we often got invited in the crew area for Chinese food and learned the way of life in their own country. It was a good rapport and I always felt the respect we had was worth the extra mile on my part.

The only thing I could never get used to was the way the African crew were treated at that time. When you look back it was actually quite shocking in today's values. Again I always gave the utmost respect despite the white guys making racist remarks. But it was what you guys did, a way of life. Our thinking was different then.

So yes I often asked myself - these are human being like me. So why should they be treated like this? If I had told anyone my thoughts at that time I think they would have read the riot act at me.

Lin x

Hi Lin,you have hit the nail on the head.The way in which the African crew were treated,this treatment was carried out by so called officers and gentlemen."It was quite shocking in todays values"It was as wrong then as it is today."our thinking was different then".The main reason that I would not clean those peanut shellls up was the fact the guys cabin it was was a "Yarpie"and you know how they treat people of a lower rank.I never considered myself lower than any man,I just did a different job.I was on the Britain this engineer came to the pantry complaining he had been given a cracked cup,one of the stewrds who knew him said"It was'nt so long ago you were working in that blacksmiths yard in Bootle and drinking out of a Conny Onny tin"
Yes I'm afraid many engineers forgot their roots.
I'm glad you can now look back and realise that these people were human beings just like you.
Regards.
jim.B.

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Originally Posted by Michael Hughes

Lyn,
Don't you think it a little odd that you have set up a thread for the sole prerve of women and now post on this thread. Hypocracy comes to mind.

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Can you believe this guy ? :eek:


And Michael,the pressure's getting to you. Surely a man of your - calibre - should be able to compose a literate post under pressure .The word is PRESERVE,and the spelling is HYPOCRISY).
Try harder....

Lin

I can only endorse what Tiger 1 has written

, Michael H has for some reason gone from very constructive posts to disruptive posts, but only he knows why, I hope the ladies continue to enjoy the general forums, but by joining them they have to accept that a few (a very few) will continue to insult them, also that they have to accept "out on deck" language as well as saloon language.

The best thing to do with Michael and others of is persuasion is to ignore them, it looks like he wants to be
the successor to another unpleasant poster who has since left, or is Michael that poster re-incarnated

Ivan

Gulliver,I guy sent me a PM a couple of weeks ago he said"Jim it's becoming more of a Nursery Site than a M.N. Site". The more you keep posting the more that I believe the man was right.Incidently I did'nt read your post 9#as soon as i looked at it something about one of your mates being good at sewing or something jumped out at me,as this is not M.N. related and possibly an attempt at you being funny I'm afraid I passed on that one.I have'nt checked my spelling on this but maybe the nursery teacher will do so and bring me to book.
Regards.
Jim.b.

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Originally Posted by Jim Brady

Gulliver,I guy sent me a PM a couple of weeks ago he said"Jim it's becoming more of a Nursery Site than a M.N. Site". The more you keep posting the more that I believe the man was right.
Regards.
Jim.b.

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Well ,you've got to admit Jim, whether you like the content or not,we're a damned site livelier now than before,as I remember when you first joined you used to whinge about the lack of members writing interesting posts or not getting involved. at all.

I'll just ignore the rest of your post.


If you're not enjoying the trip with us,why not ask to be paid off,or jump ship.
There are a few other 'ships' available out there that might suit your requirements..




Regards

Gulliver

Gulliver,I can't jump ship I've already got one VNC another one would be one to many.
Regards.
Jim.B.

hi jim. with regard to your comment on gullivers post re sewing. in the old sailing ship days, knitting was one of the most common pastimes so sewing might be in there somewhere alf

I shall no longer be reading Mr Hughes posts..

Thanks Gulliver for your support. All I wanted was a bit of reminiscing and to do a spot of writing. What I didn't expect was to be railroaded.

Many of us haven't been to sea in forty years! So why haven't the negative people moved on! I have.

Lin

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In the early 70s I was told by an AB who had just come off one of the ACT boats, that all hands could take their wives and up to two children with them on the voyages to OZ, NZ and back, 72 day trips.
I remember being on the ESSO NORTHUMBRIA, we arrived in Milford Haven from the Gulf and all the Sailors had their wives on board and sailed round to Fawley, they were onboard for more than a week before we sailed back to the Gulf again. First time I ever saw the crowd have their wives on board.

I was on an Esso tanker in Fawley, we had just returned from the Fawley Falcon Pub with a few carry outs. we were sat in Charley`s cabin having a drink when a new AB joined from Belfast.
We gave him a can and as he sat down he noticed the photo of Charley`s wife.
"Do you know Brenda then"? he said to Charley, "She is my wife" said Charley. "No she is the Chief Stewards wife on the `WAVE TABNAB an RFA tanker` said the lad. "We sailed from Rosyth to Hamburg and back, a two week trip."
Charley is going Demented, with a capital D. "What was the Stewards name" screamed Charley.
The lad, "Billy Onions" [ The names are obviously changed.] "He comes from Portsmouth". "Thats where we live, I know the *@*^$@". She told me she was going to Edinbugh to visit her relatives, I will kill both the *^%@, " and with that he got his coat and went ashore.
I never saw him again, so dont know if he did kill them or not.
So what a performance, a Chief Steward with his wife on board who was really someone elses wife.

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