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    All that is mentioned at: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Circlip-Sto...s=circlip+book is MN, no RN.

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    Default Re: Uniform Query / Fellow shipmates Lochiel Scotland

    Don’t really need to look this up Keith as am speaking from what I actually observed so know it is genuine. A lot of what is said and printed is alright if you know nothing and want to be brought up to speed., most seamen get their knowledge by living it. Cheers JS.
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    John, the knowledge you and many other members have is of greater value than any cut and paste.
    Cut and paste does not tell it all, the experience of the members does.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

    Life is too short to blend in.

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    #13, has nothing to do with the request: Hi, I am hoping someone can help me.
    I am trying to find a colour picture of the Merchant Navy Chief Engineer uniform from 1950's - 1970's.

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    #8 I don't see any reason why a Chief Engineer would want to borrow a Captain's jacket to have his photo taken, they both have the same number of stripes and C/E's were very proud of their profession and purple stripes.

    Linda did mention that she was going to spot colour the cap badge, perhaps if you have a photo of the cap badge it would also help, the photo of your' father's uniform is definitely MN, the other photo of uniform and cap badge is typical of RN and should be discounted. Do you not have any papers from his service which may throw further light on clarification.

    Those of us who have been at sea don't need to consult google/wikepedia. A lot of Liner companies, especially USA and Scandinavian, have company liveries similar to our RN livery with a rondel or diamond above the stripes but would have a company cap badge rather than an anchor on a red velvet background

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    Thanks again Ivan, valued input towards a definitive answer to the request.

    K.

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    He was not made Captain but remained Chief Engineer throughout his career. Thank you

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    [QUOTE=Keith at Tregenna;351588]Thought that but, think line two is engineers.

    Line 2 - 4th from left: Chief Engineer ?

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    Actually, yes, it would seem like shoulder above and cuff lower,
    pos Linda may know if he made captain ?

    No, I don't believe he was ever made Captain, he loved being an engineer and I spent a lot of time in the engine room with him when he was on dry land, I remember him being Chief Engineer and want to make sure I honour the colours he wore. He made us all stand in a line during the national anthem and give a naval salute to the Queen at the end of tv broadcasts in the 60's. He was very proud of the Merchant Navy and his part of the family of fellow seamen. Thank you all

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    No, it was when he was on official duty, the ship was sinking, he told me that his duty was to stay onboard and if needed go down with the vessel, he needed to save the crew and fixed the issue with a circlip, we were all very proud of him, I am sure his fellow shipmates were thankful as well. He wanted to tell the story to give hope that you should never give up when you think all is lost. Thank you

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    Linda it is no ones duty 'to go down with the ship' it is everyones duty to try and save the ship, and if you cannot do that then it is your duty to make sure everyone gets off the ship as safely as possible and into as many lifeboats and onto life rafts as possible. Going down with the ship is alright for movies and for those who do not want to face a Board of Inquiry where-in they felt their own actions were lacking. In wartime everyone tried to survive, one for self preservation and two, knowing that their services were invaluable on another vessel due to a lack of experienced seamen due to excessive losses in wartime.

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