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    Most of us have lived through the times of vaccinations and inoculations of what once were considered childhood diseases , even though we still caught with or without the big needle. For those who knew the staff at South Shields marine school before the big new establishment at Westhoe , when the pre-sea school was run from an ex youth hostel in the same area ,might remember the head of the school Capt. Bill Moore who also wrote various papers and books on seamanship I believe. I was very surprised to hear he had died think it was in the late 1950s. On making enquires I was very surprised to hear he had died with chicken pox . Apparently it can still be a big killer of elderly people, whereas youngsters just seem to take it in their stride. Disease is always going to be with us , Chicken pox, measles etc.I look on as the forerunners of present day newcomers. Cheers JS
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    Diphtheria and Scarlet fever were the big ones when I was in short pants, we had what we all called a fever hospital near us, very busy place back in 36 to 40, a lot of funerals went from there, empty desks at school. I got double pneumonia when i was four from playing down the river, spent four months in hospital driving the big matron crazy, in these days of TV adds showing how kids can drown in a backyard swimming pool I don't know how I survived. I know I was taught how to swim by my Dad towing me out into the sea and leaving me to get back to the beach as good as I could.
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    Whenever one saw an ambulance it was “ Touch a collar, Touch a collar, Never follow Fever “ , was the young girls saying . Thinking back I must have played with the girls , they wont play with me anymore. JS.

    I always said "Touch Hair Touch Hair
    Never go there "

    Still do to this day Honest!
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    My mother was of the school if there was measles or other in the neighbourhood we were sent to " Visit" , the aim to get us infected to get it over with!
    One time she had to deal with my sister and I having chickenpox and whooping cough ( at the same time) and our baby brother had a lung infection!!
    Served her right.. her policy in that instance was a little too successful.
    Young children these days have many "vaccinations" for all sorts that were taken as part of growing up in our day and others we'd never heard of.
    My dad's policy to teach us to swim was similiar to Des.
    Just threw us into the river ( In Fiji) to see if we actually rose to the surface.
    My sister sank like a rock ( dad had to dive in to retrieve her.) I floated up so he was satisfied I had a natural ability to swim. LOL

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    #4.. Most people think that sailors and fishermen can all swim. They would be surprised if they knew of the many who didn’t . I always imagined that fishermen especially would be able, living and working so close to the water would, but came across many who couldn’t .It never daunted a seaman whether he swam or not. The attitude that the sea was for fish and ducks prevailed . Water may have been necessary for drinking to support life, but stronger stuff was preferred . Cheers JS
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    #4.. . I always imagined that fishermen especially would be able, living and working so close to the water would, but came across many who couldn’t . Cheers JS
    John, in my time on trawlers very few fishermen could swim, the Arctic fishing grounds around Bear Island and North of Iceland were very cold even in summer, you were dressed in thigh boots, difficult to get on as you never wore them oversize as you need to feel the deck, heavy woollen knee socks (tights not invented then), heavy trousers and jerseys, gutting gloves, as little bare skin as possible to prevent frostbite and sticking to the steelwork and cushioning getting battered by the heavy steel bobbins. Even olympic swimmers would have difficulty coping with that lot, those that did survive after going over the wall was because air was trapped in their clothes or they had been swept back on board, alas most were just dragged down by their wet gear.

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    One of the greatest pleasures in my life was teaching my eldest grand daughter to swim. She had blind faith in that grandpa was in the pool with her so what could go wrong, she is like a fish now. Her 3 year old sister was able to make it back to the edge of the pool while having an unplanned dip, she fell in while being the wee minx she is. It did take her a while again though to get in again as when she fell in the pool temperature was in single figures. Last time I had her in the pool was before we left France last August when the pool was an acceptable 28 degrees.

    As said a lot of seafarers were not able to swim but does anyone know any pilots that can fly???

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    That Greek fellah who had wings , Alcarus or something similar sounding ? . JS

    Maybe it was him that wrote that wartime song “ coming in on one wing and a prayer “. Douglas Bader must have sung that often to himself having no legs . JS
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    John, that would be that Icarus fella, as you say the Greek lad, probably the first Olympic airlines pilot? But like most young fellas he ignored his father Daedalus who advised him not to fly to close to the sun, well he did and the wax melted on his wings and down he came.
    A few years ago there was a couple of Irish lads decided they were going to fly to the Sun.
    It was pointed out to them that they would get burnt up by the sun as they got closer.
    But these guys were nobody's mugs. They said they were going to go at night.
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    Whenever wax is mentioned I always think of that joke which could be true if one wanted it to be so, of the things one could purchase. In a Japanese bathhouse i.e.The Wax Treatment. The details too gory to put on here as ladies present , but certainly cleared the ears out. Those two Irish lads if they only knew and waited till the sun was in Perihelion they wouldn’t of had so far too fly. Another theory picked up from one of John in Ozs posts on the overheating of the earth and hence climate change often discussed on here. Cheers JS
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