ante covid vaccination

Can only agree with what has been stated, alas until there is a crackdown on the miscreants nothing will change, we are into a couple of generations now who have never had to abide by rules. As i have stated before, a couple of my relatives are working in schools, and there is no discipline whatever, they can only be excluded, which suits most of them. These same kids grow up with the same attitude to rules of life. I realise its not ALL kids, but schools are in chaos a lot of the time because of bad behaviour. kt

with ref to my statement rechanging sails at a moments notice i have afew moments ago ...had a message from my village surgery that my second jab will now not go ahead on jan 9 as the government has been advised by he powers that be re the vaccine more lives will be saved by instead of differnt layers getting two jabs more folk will recieve just one jab and although the cover will not be as high ...the virus if you are unfortunate to get it will not be as powerful ,,,sounds sense to me ....ie change sails again ...this is so fast moving and momentous decisions are being made daily and hourly.....cappy

Maybe you bent too many of their needles the first time Cappy. JS

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i can only compare the last year or so to a sailing vessel in a series of changing .weather .....along comes one lot the master ie the government change sail .....the sitouation changed very quickly the sails are reset even before the last order was complete ...the government has had to make more decisions of a major type than any government for many years ......lewis your statement re boris may or may not be true ....depending on your political view and to be fair with brexit and the virus he has had much to cope with .......one small point i believe it is mat hancock you mean when you state nick hancock .....which is the starter of your comment .....but then anyone can make mistakes under pressure......my personal view is the government has done a fair job ...and i agree it has been let down by the people who put so many including there own at risk by pure self centered selfishness ......well the regions guilty are paying for it now with a vengeance.....cappy

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Fair enough Cappy I got my Nick and my Matt confused lol, Attachment 31345Attachment 31346:)

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Can only agree with what has been stated, alas until there is a crackdown on the miscreants nothing will change, we are into a couple of generations now who have never had to abide by rules. As i have stated before, a couple of my relatives are working in schools, and there is no discipline whatever, they can only be excluded, which suits most of them. These same kids grow up with the same attitude to rules of life. I realise its not ALL kids, but schools are in chaos a lot of the time because of bad behaviour. kt

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Bring back the 'tawse', the thought of getting six of the best with hands crossed with that leather strap will soon restore discipline in schools.
No discipline breeds no respect.

Fouro.

There we were in Adelaide South Australia for Christmas.
Like being in another country, no masks, no worries and great weather.

There were a number of notices around the town, all well made but the message ...............

'If it were not for the contrived figures, the wearing of masks and the ever lasting scare mongering of the media you would never know there was a Pandemic'.

The media here in Oz can make two new cases sound like the end of the world, did not watch any news for six days, made no difference to me not knowing what was going on.

I think what has saved Australia so far!! is having individual States, and separate Govt's, there was an element of competition between Labour and Conservative Govt's, and the ability for closing the borders to stop any people from a State with Covid from crossing the border, and with it Covid. Which is puzzling me why the USA didn't do the same. I don't know if Britain did it with the Welsh and Scottish and Irish, borders but it should have done.
Like Lewis I think that politics was involved in the UK, in the sense that like our frustrated Federal PM, who, thought that the the economy had to continue, which beggars the question is the economy more important than life, it appears that in some politicians minds it is so.
Des

In all of man's time on this planet and with all the medical scientific developments he has only ever eradicated two virus.
Smallpox in 1980
Rhinopest in 2011


This virus, like the Flu or the common cold will always be here unless eradication takes place.

A millionaire couple from Turkey living in Germany were working on a once in a life time vaccination for the Flu when the Virus hit town.
It was from there, with the assistance of other scientists they were able to develop a vaccine so quickly.

The following information comes from our ship mate Roger Dyer and I thank him for that.



JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL INFORMATION ON COVID 19



Here is some very useful COVID information from the John Hopkins Hospital information sheet relative to Coronavirus 19.

It is extremely informative and seems to be about the latest release of personal handling of this medical issue and is worth the time to study the information given for your personal care. Stay safe and stay well.

This certainly makes the CoVid -19 protection methods more understandable.



*This virus is not a living organism.

It is a protein molecule (RNA or DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular (eyes), nasal (nose) or buccal mucosa (mouth), changes their genetic code (mutates) and converts into aggressor and multiplier cells.



* Since the virus is not a living organism, but is a protein molecule, IT CANNOT BE KILLER.

It has to decay on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.



* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat, and that is the reason why soap or detergent is the best weapon. The foam CUTS THE FAT (that is why you have to scrub for 20 seconds or more, to create lots of foam). By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down.



* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is necessary to use water above 77 degrees for hand washing, laundry and cleaning surfaces. In addition, hot water makes more foam, making it more effective.



* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ALL FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.



* Any solution with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaking it down from the inside.

* Oxygenated water increases the effectiveness of soap, alcohol, and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein. However, because you have to use it in its pure form, it can damage your skin.



* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC WILL WORK because the virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies CANNOT KILL WHAT IS NOT ALIVE.



* The virus molecules remain very stable at colder temperatures, including air conditioning in houses and cars. They also need moisture and darkness to stay stable. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade the virus faster.



* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain the virus breaks down the protein. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.



* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.



* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.



* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is only 40% alcohol, and you need a minimum of 65%.



* LISTERINE is 65% alcohol.



* The more confined the space, the higher the concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.



* You have to wash your hands before and after touching any commonly used surfaces such as: mucosa (mouth area), food, locks, knobs, switches, remotes, cell phones, watches, computers, desks etc… and don’t forget when you use the bathroom.



* You have to MOISTURIZE YOUR HANDS due to frequent washing. Dry hands have cracks and the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.



* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.



Now for some additional input:

Dr. Bonnie Henry is the Provincial Health Officer for British Columbia, the first woman in this position. She is also an associate professor at the University of British Columbia. She has a background in

epidemiology and is a specialist in public health and preventive medicine . She is also from PEI (Prince Edward Island).



The Wisdom of Dr. Bonnie Henry

1. We may have to live with COVID-19 for months or years. Let's not deny it or panic. Let's not make our lives useless. Let's learn to live with this fact.



2. You can't destroy COVID-19 viruses that have penetrated cell walls, by drinking gallons of hot water you'll just go to the bathroom more often.



3. Washing hands and maintaining a two-meter physical distance is the best method for your protection.



4. If you don't have a COVID-19 patient at home, there's no need to disinfect the surfaces at your house.



5. Packaged cargo, gas pumps, shopping carts and ATMs do not cause infection. If you wash your hands, live your life as usual.

6. COVID-19 is not a food infection. It is associated with drops of infection like the 'flu’. There is no demonstrated risk that COVID-19 is transmitted by food.



7. You can lose your sense of smell with a lot of allergies and viral infections. This is only a non-specific symptom of COVID-19.



8. Once at home, you don't need to change your clothes urgently and go shower! Purity is a virtue, paranoia is not!



9. The COVID-19 virus doesn't hang in the air for long. This is a respiratory droplet infection that requires close contact.



10. The air is clean; you can walk through the gardens and through parks (just keeping your physical protection distance).



11. It is sufficient to use normal soap against COVID-19, not antibacterial soap. This is a virus, not a bacterium.



12. You don't have to worry about your food orders. But you can heat it all up in the microwave if you wish.



13. The chances of bringing COVID-19 home with your shoes is like being struck by lightning twice in a day. I've been working against viruses for 20 years — drop infections don't spread like that!



14. You can't be protected from the virus by taking vinegar, sugarcane juice and ginger! These are for immunity not a cure.



15. Wearing a mask for long periods interferes with your breathing and oxygen levels. Wear it only in crowds.



16. Wearing gloves is also a bad idea; the virus can accumulate into the glove and be easily transmitted if you touch your face. Better just to wash your hands regularly. Immunity is weakened by always staying in a sterile environment. Even if you eat immune boosting foods, please go out of your house regularly to any park/beach. Immunity is increased by EXPOSURE TO PATHOGENS, not by sitting at home and consuming fried/ spicy/sugary food and aerated drinks.



Be smart and stay informed! Live life sensibly and to the fullest.

Be Kind, Be Calm and Be Safe!



Have a Great Day

Victoria I have recently had two minor eye operations and both occasions have been asked are you averse to any medication. My usual answer then and now is always the same “ none as far as I know “, there will always be some who are averse to the new medication by the law of averages. Let’s hope this isn’t advertised out of all proportion as is done with almost any subject under the guise of stop press or in the news of today. JS.

#105: The advice was simple: one jab, and then another three weeks later.
But surgeries have now been told to postpone giving a second jab to the
600,000 or so patients who've already had one dose.

K.