A hospital visit

John, I prefer to say it as it is not how i want it to appear everyone on this forum is aware of the situation not just me, And at least you can see whats going on, Not that the rest cant i was never one to bury my head in the sand and hope it all works out well, Because that aint going to happen after Brexit, I just hope my off springs take my advice and realize prevention is better than cure because a lot of money is wasted on self inflicted illness in the N.H.S. And cutting it to the bone financially is not sustainable for the next 5 years let alone 70 Regards Terry. :deadhorse:

The UK has one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world according to a damning new report which said the nation has an “outstandingly poor” record of preventing ill health.

Hospitals are now so short-staffed and underequipped that people are also dying needlessly because of a chronic lack of investment. The verdict, from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), will make embarrassing reading for David Cameron who denied the cash-strapped NHS is heading for its worst winter crisis.

Staff are too rushed to improve levels of care that have in many areas fallen below countries such as Turkey, Portugal and Poland. Almost 75,000 more doctors and nurses are needed to match standards in similar countries the OECD said in its annual Health at a Glance study comparing the quality of healthcare across 34 countries.

While access to care is “generally good” the quality of care in the UK is “poor to mediocre” across several key health areas, obesity levels are “dire” and the NHS struggles to get even the “basics” right, the report said citing a lack of investment over the last six years.

Britain was placed on a par with Chile and Poland as countries still lagging behind the best performers in survival following diagnosis for different types of cancer. The UK came 21st out of 23 countries on cervical cancer survival, 20th out of 23 countries on breast and bowel cancer survival and 19th out of 31 countries on stroke.

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The organisation called for “urgent attention” to combat high rates of smoking, harmful alcohol consumption and obesity, which are all above the OECD average, to reduce premature mortality in the United Kingdom. Some 19 per cent of adults in the OECD are obese on average, but the figure in the UK is 25 per cent.

While survival after hospital admission for heart attack and stroke is improving it is “worse than many other OECD countries” including Canada, Italy, the Netherlands and Spain, the 220-page study said. The UK is ranked 20th out of 32 countries on heart attack deaths.

Mark Pearson, OECD Deputy Director of Employment, Labour and Social Affairs, said many medics were too rushed to improve the care they give.

He said: “At the moment in the NHS I think there is the risk that people do not have the time to do that. What they are doing is going through the processes ... rather than being a learning organisation, an organisation that can improve.” As cappy says the proof is in the pudding Terry.

Don,t shoot the messenger......................

Scots retain 'unhealthiest' crown


Scots women are among the unhealthiest in the UK
Scots drink more, smoke more and have poorer diets than people across the rest of the UK, an official report has found.
In particular, the health of Scottish women appeared worse than their English counterparts.
According to Scotland's chief statistician, Scots women are more likely to suffer heart disease and diabetes and be overweight.
The data has been released as part of the Scottish Health Survey.
Public Health Minister Shona Robison said more action was needed to tackle Scotland's health issues.
Opposition leaders said Scotland needed to lose its "sick man of Europe" tag.
About 44% of men in Scotland were likely to have drunk more than four units of alcohol on their heaviest drinking day, compared with 41% in England, the survey said.
'Appalling health record'
That represented about two pints of medium-strength beer or four glasses of wine.
A higher proportion of women in Scotland (36%) than England (32%) drank more than three units on their heaviest drinking day in the last week.
The survey also found that 27% of men in Scotland smoked compared with 24% in England.
The equivalent figures for women were 25% and 20%.
Women in Scotland were also more likely to smoke than women in Wales (22%).
'Improving diets'
Scotland doesn't have to be the sick man of the UK
Jamie Stone, Liberal Democrats
Ms Robison said: "Scotland historically has an appalling health record. For generations, far too many people have died before their time with our culture of poor diet, heavy drinking and smoking all taking their toll.
"That's why we're taking action to improve our nation's health and it is heartening that we are seeing improvements in many areas.
"But, as today's statistics show, other parts of the UK are still doing better and this clearly demonstrates that we can, and must, do more to help Scots live healthy lives."
The report compared the most recently-published health surveys in the four UK countries.
It also found fruit and vegetable consumption was significantly lower in Scotland than in England for both men and women.
A higher proportion of men and women were overweight, including obese, in Scotland than in England or Northern Ireland.
Only 20% of men and 24% of women in Scotland ate the recommended five or more portions of fruit and vegetables a day compared with 25% of men and 29% of women in England.
The amount of women overweight, including obesity, was significantly higher in Scotland (61.8%) than in England (56.9%) or Northern Ireland (54%).
Liberal Democrat public health spokesman Jamie Stone said: "These comparisons make for grim reading for Scotland.
"The Scottish government has to tackle the root causes of obesity. That means improving diets and getting more Scots active.
"Scotland doesn't have to be the sick man of the UK.

#113 Terry one thing though when they start talking percentages it really doesn't gell. E.g. Ten percent of say 10,000 equals 1000 whereas 10 percent of 60,000 equals 6000. A least they start of saying the sick man of Europe and finish up saying the sick man of the UK. One thing the Scots should have more of though is money under the mattress. JWS.

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#113 Terry one thing though when they start talking percentages it really doesn't gell. E.g. Ten percent of say 10,000 equals 1000 whereas 10 percent of 60,000 equals 6000. A least they start of saying the sick man of Europe and finish up saying the sick man of the UK. One thing the Scots should have more of though is money under the mattress. JWS.

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If I remember correctly, your good wife's ancestors were members of Clan Douglas and should she read what you have posted here, you had better look out or she might just be tempted to kiss you goodnight with a "Glesca Kiss".

Fouro.

#116... Not my wife's Fouro she is 100 per cent Geordie, my mother so I"m half and a half. Half of a heavy and a half of a low flier. As for your glesga kiss they would get it back courtesy of a boomerang. As a recent post on the gay ones sailed with an Aberdovian in 1969, ( 2nd. Eng.)who was a resident of Aberdeen Scotland. So Scotland also colonised the world and still continues to do so. The only memory of him I have is because he was otherwise orientated. However he kept it to himself so no problem. Only when the Chinese firemen played up that he had to go back to Aberdeen (. HK). The only Scotsman from Aberdeen who emigrated to Aberdeen Hong Kong where it wasn't for the girls. That I ever knew. Cheers JWS

The report makes interesting reading and shows what I said in an earlier reply, the intake of new staff, nurses and doctors is not keeping up with an increase in population or the needs of an aging population.
Some countries, Sweden and Estonia come to mind, do not have such a problem, nor do they have the population problems of UK with very few refugees or immigrants. But they have VAT at 25% and in Sweden a daily charge of $20 to stay in hospital.

My only understanding of the NHS now is from family and friends in UK, but we have a nephew and niece, both radiographers in Middlesex hospital London, who tell me it is bad and getting worse. He is head of his department and tells me the under staffing in his department sees so many urgent cases taking twice as long as they should.
He does not see it as a money issue but one of lack of interest by the younger generation to join the medical profession.

From comments by another family member, living on south coast, the waiting time for even the simplest of procedures is far too long. Some of the treatment for Diabetes appears to be far behind that here in Oz.

Unless stff levels can be lifted the situation will get gradually worse to the point where it may well collapse

The same issue was in the news headlines yesterday, Stop wasting money on no hoppers and start directing it to mental health and social care, Dress it up as you like you cant get away from statistics regardless of when the report was published its still an issue that needs addressing, People need to take a look at there life styles, Like most things that go pear shaped they usually start at home. Terry.

after reading Ted's posts I think we should have a devolution referendum . get rid , they're too expensive



( in jest marion - luvs you all - really )

well todays the day my barb is getting a new hip hospital 7.30am and go from there they are doing the op while she is awake less stress on her heart so squeaky bum day today? jp