Cancer

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Originally Posted by happy daze john in oz

I continue to hear of horror stories from UK about medical services and the lack of them in certain areas.
Saw my GP today with results of my annual grease and oil change, all A OK, good for another year.
There appears to be one very big difference between UK and Oz medical treatment. Here if anything we are over serviced. The greater majority of GP's will send you off for tests at the slightest sign of something not right. There is regular advertising inviting the public to get tests for a number of ailments and illneseses, the greater majority can be treated if caught in time.

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John we have the same thing here in France, my GP is constantly advising me to go for Xrays which then are taken to specialists who then make appointments for a scan. I never had any of these results given to me as a personal record when I lived in Ireland.

My mate had an endoscopy up his tail pipe the Doctor at the hospital told him he had polyps that caused bleeding.
He would not believe him and decided to go Private and went to a Private Hospital and saw the Doctor, He was astounded when he went into the room and saw the same Doctor he had in the Local Hospital. The Doctor said ..What are you here for ? and Fred said I came to have a Second opinion,.. The Doctor said .. Well I will tell you again for the second time, you have Polyps up your tailk pipe and they are the cause of the bleeding. Just pay my Secretary £80 on your way out.
Fred was as sick as a pig. True story.
Cheers
Brian.

Here in Australia when you become a pensioner your local docter will send you for all the test every year at least mine does and as far asi know it applies thoughout Australia.Recently i lost my brother Luke back home in Liverpool, to lung cancer he had a chest exray and was told by his doctor he had it and didn't have long gave him six months he lasted about 4 1/2 months and he was gone.

Sorry to hear about your brother Luke, Charlie, Liverpool and the North West of UK is very bad for Lung Cancer, Doctors should be more aware, But do they really care for the Patient or more for their budget?
as I refered to earlier, Xrays are a waste of time, all it says is , `You Have Got it`.
In every annual check up a CT Scan should always be included, but no, it is expensive, must think of the budgets.
Cheers
Brian.

Brian our Luke smoked like a chimney all his life never seen him with out a smoke in his mouth,even having Emphysema for years still would not give them up.

HI Charlie.
We keep on at our son and daughter to give up smoking, they don't seem to realize that when it's detected it's to late. An example of stupidity, yesterday we were talking about the problem of taking to much salt in our food, my daughter who eats very sensibly veges and fruit said she avoids salt whenever she can, doesn't use it in her cooking etc, then went over and lit a cigarette, when I pointed this out she couldn't answer me, just said she knew it was stupid.
Cheers Des

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Two out of three of my daughters still smoke- find it difficult to kick the habit. My wife and myself smoked a lot late fifties early sixties - mind you with a carton of Luckies costing ten bob it was no strain on the budget- just the lungs. We packed in about 1970, mainly to try to prevent our children starting, sort of by example, but it didn't work- usual reasons, peer pressure mainly. I believe one of the reasons why todays smokers find it difficult to stop is the excessive toxic chemicals included in the mix, (apart from the poison 'nicotine') thereby creating addiction which can be difficult to kick. It is also a fact that tobacco manufacturers export high tar and nicotine cigarettes to third world countries creating more addiction and more profits for the tobacco barons of this world.
gilly

Hi John
In 2001 I was sailing back from Cape Town on the Caronia.
A fellow passenger was a Tobacco Farmer from Rhodesia , now Zimbabwe.
He told me that all cigarettes are full of chemicals, including cyanide. all very addictive.
You dont get addicted to the tobacco , you get addicted to the poisons they put in to get you to buy and buy again and again.
He smoked very expensive cigars of pure tobacco leaf, no addatives, and none addictive.
He gave me one after dinner one night, I dont smoke but I enjoyed that cigar. They cost then £20 each 12 years ago. I could never afford that.
So the big Killer is the addictive Poisons they add to them.
Cheers
Brian

Taff it was like talking to a wall trying to get our kid off smokes!

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Originally Posted by Bob Hollis

John we have the same thing here in France, my GP is constantly advising me to go for Xrays which then are taken to specialists who then make appointments for a scan. I never had any of these results given to me as a personal record when I lived in Ireland.

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My sister in law did in a nursing home in Ireland, lack of care did not help the situation, she had cancer and a stroke, now only two hospitals, Cork and Dublin doing chemo.