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Des do not know if you have noticed that the bloody media are talking of seven reactors to be built. They should be saying that it is seven sites. The truth is that the opposition minister said that there will be seven sites and each site will have up to five reactors on each. Think those not apposed to a reactor in their area might think twice about having five of the buggers built around them. Noticed that the ACT does not get one or Tassie. The attached thumbnail is a letter from our Paul Keeting who has a way of cutting to the chase on these subjects. He is against AUKUS as he said on an interview a while back. The waters around Australia is to shallow to operate these type of subs as they could be monitored from space as to there location. Well that was one of many problems that he talked about but that one stuck in the old grey matter of this little black duck.

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Originally Posted by Des Taff Jenkins

HI Les.
People in Aus seem to forget the nuclear plant in a Sydney suburb; used for both medical purposes and experiments for health purposes, there has been an on going concern for the sealed bins of atomic waste that is pilling up there so close to Sydney. Where is the dickhead going to put his waste material, I think that is the first thing Dutton should tell the electorate. One only has to remember what happened in Fukushima. I do know one thing, it wont be in the richest woman's massive cattle spread.
Des
PS He said one would be at the head of the river for the whole of the Sydney basins water table.

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Des Just as on off , in South Africa most all of the Nuclear Waste is Transported by Special Trucks to both the Orang Free State and the Transvaal, where there are now quite a few old Deep Gold Disused Mines.
The waste is sealed and the Put into these disused Mine Pits! Some of which as many may know are some of the deepest in the World! I recall at one i worked at in Glen Harmony was at its deepest around the 19000 feet, and i heard that it went even deeper later on! So no chance of any fallout at that kind of Depth!
Cheers

Koeberg Power Station which is still suppling much of Cape Towns Total Power has been going for a long time, and there has as i recall only been one incident, which was not that bad either!

We lived very near that Plant for a while, when my Brother in Law worked at the Plant, as they had and still have a Huge Housing complex for all their Employees!
Great Houses at very reasonable Rentals as well. You had the Option to buy the House as well, which my Brother in Law did. Sold at afyet they eventually left there, and made a good Profit!

So as i see it living close by a Reactor is no worse that a lot of other places, and with the very strict watch on all, its quite safe !

Heer in Oz we not only burry waste from the Lucas Hights reactor but that from countries we supply with Yellow Cake.
It is buried in Lead boxes deep in the remote outback.

One of the problems with the current renewables, Wind and Solar, they have a limited shelf life.
For Solar about 25 years, Wind Turbines near to 20 years.
An atomic reactor will last for well over 100 years, during that time the renewables will be renewed a number of times.

As to Gas, James the amount of natural gas here in Oz id far from the 1%, it is closer to 10% and Victoria sits on some of the largest in the country, but our Neanderthal state gov will not allow it to be used, bad for the environment but we can of course export it !!!!!

Coal, in Queensland it is estimated there is enough for the next 500 years, China loves it.
They continue to build coal fire power stations in regions where Solar and Wind are not goo, they know as the world moves from coal the price will drop, good for them.

#13 John I suppose it depends on the source one looks at Australia is ranked 27th in world rankings which equates to 1%.
Australia are ranked at 7th for gas exports but not reserves.
7. Australia
Production: 162 billion cubic meters

Since 2009, Australia has added 113 billion cubic meters of natural gas production. Nearly all of Australia’s natural gas resources are located in the massive gas fields on the North West Shelf, “providing feedstock to seven LNG projects.”

Australia’s LNG exports have grown exponentially over the past decade as several new production facilities have come online. Today, Australia has the second largest operating LNG export capacity in the world.

In late 2023, major Australian energy company Santos said it expects a decline in its natural gas production for 2024 as its Bayu-Undan offshore gas field in the Timor Sea is nearing depletion.

John.
One thing Dutton has not mentioned is that in the Hunter region Australia's Artisan water table has been breached by the deep coal mining.
Neither I or my children or even Dutton will see the Atomic power stations built; so I am not worried really.
Des

Dont forget the futuristic submarines, where do they get their power from.

With Australia so much money is tied up in renewable energy by big corporations who are all against nuclear for obvious reasons and the government is on the same page.

Most people associate nucleur power with nucleur bombs, I am not a nucleur scientist but one should get all the information and misinformation from a proper source. There is always a chance of radiation escaping the same or similar as there is from the sun every day. However I think when dealing with nucleurfushion man made science has advanced in its knowledge by now to handle it with appropriate safety cautions. And too much of the sight of Hiroshima is on peoples minds to judge it coming from the wrong angle. There is no holding back science when it can be put to good use for the benefit of all. JS

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Originally Posted by Alan Briggs

Dont forget the futuristic submarines, where do they get their power from.

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Going back to the last mob led by Morrison that turned this into a debacle. They first ordered the subs to be built in France. Stipulation was that they wanted the subs to be powered with diesle engines. This blew the price up as the French had to modify the subs to have diesle instead of nuclear. Then to get political leverage and increase his chances of being relected Morrison came up with this idea to go nuclear and hence AUKUS was created. Now the French nuclear subs are powered with industrial nuclear and are easier to decommision than these new ones that are powered with weapon grade nuclear. I believe that both in the US and UK they have nuclear subs that have reached there use by date and they have not got a clue as to how to dispose of them. Along comes Australia that probably give them a way of foisting them onto the Aussies to then work out how to dispose of this weapons grade nuclear. We do not know where to dispose of industrial nuclear waste and taking subs on with more dangerous waste to dispose of. All because one individule wanted to increase his popularity to get three more years in office.

A well known Climatologist, Prof Plimer here in Oz, has come out and stated quite clearly that no country can run entirely on renewables.

They are inefficient in their distribution of power generated. Simply that is no sun, no wind then no power.

It has been estimated by the global energy commission that to power the world with only renewable devices such as wind and solar will require 55 trillion of them across the globe.
Add to that almost as many batteries and there will be no room left for the people.
Average life expectancy is maximum 25 for solar and 20 for wind.

That is a lot of costs every few years to replace them.

Renewables have their place in the mix as most of us agree, but there has to be a constant and reliable back up.