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    Over the past few years we have been flooded with articles about the dangers of Climate Change and the horrors it may bring to the world.

    Much of this has been promoted by the Greens across much of the Western world.
    Any one who went against this teaching was called a right Wing denier, some one to be avoided at all costs.
    But it appears there may be cracks appearing in this mantra.

    There is a man claimed by many to be one of the leaders of this Green revolution. A long time adviser to the UN intergovernmental Panel on Climate change. He helped to craft the Obama Climate energy policy. His name, Micheal Shellenberger.

    His opinion is vastly different now to then.
    He now, like Micheal Moore, a left wing filmmaker he now speaks out about the sham of renewable energy. To him Extinction Rebellion is a giant hoax claiming now that renewable s do more damage than good. Greta is just someone used by those who wish to create havoc amongst the populous.

    He now tells it this way, renewable s will not save the planet, climate change is a natural part of the Earths policy and if we want to have reliable energy supplies we need to have Nuclear energy in the mix.
    Renewable s he claims turn the surrounding area into a waste land where nothing else will be allowed to exist.
    But there is money in much of this, for the farmers who recieve rent for the use of their land, the companies who build and install the systems and then leave having made their money.
    The public are then conned into paying far beyond needs prices for power.

    All this from a man who was at one time Green to the extreme. Bob Brown leader of the Greens for many years and one of the biggest pushers for renewable s has now said, enough, too much wild life is being killed and damaged by these renewable s. Birds in particular are being caught up in the turbines.

    It makes one wonder just what is it all about, to me it is part of the social engineering being created by those who would see a socialistic world order.
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    Enough going on now without all this again surely.

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    This was put on site with the possibility that there may be some interested in what is occurring in this field.
    Obviously you are not one!!!!
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    It will be interesting to see after the next election for the President of the United States , what the leader of whatever party that does not make it , does with his past world exposure to humanity , and like Al Gore assume a subject to try and keep his exposure going. Most write books about themselves hoping to ingratiate themselves with the general public and the almighty dollar, just in case they run short of a few bob. Anyone who listens to them has only themselves to blame for taking their word as gospel, they are talkers only from whatever script writer puts out for them. Nothing more nothing less. JS.
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    Rennies (other brands are available) are usually good for an ill wind

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    When I first read that Ivan, thought you said Ronnies ,and immediately pictured the two of them competing to see who could produce the biggest ill wind that blows no one any good. Cheers JS
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    Trouble with post #1 is lies are constantly being told from both sides of the argument and this concentrates attention to the arguments and not the issue. I for one tend to think that if we where to clean up our act it surely would make for a better world. As for that furphy about turning areas into waste grounds should come here and see the mine sites that have not only turned our landscape into moon scape but also damaged water supplies. Yep lets just keep on arguing and do stuff all about the problem because lets face it none of us will be here to stand up and say? I was right.
    That's the way the mop flops.

    My thanks to Brian for this site.

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    #7: Apparently, it is all mainly digging up old ground for Shellenberger's
    new book that critiques environmentalism and is reported to be 'deeply
    and fatally flawed.'

    K.

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    You are right Les, it took a whole school full of kids to be killed in Aberfan before there were any moves to put those coal tips in Wales back down were they came from. And I bet not one cent was spent by the mine owners. Give it time and Sydney will be drinking poison from the big Waragamba Dam, as the poisoned water from all the mines around it is seeping in, denials at the moment, the Minister being Blind Pugh. There is more to poluting the earth than cars, factories, at el
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    The cost of coal exacted a heavy price on human life. That was a given.

    But then there had never been anything to compare with Aberfan.

    On Sundays though it was the turn of the village’s nine chapels,
    churches and gospel halls to do a roaring trade; Wales’ fervent
    religious tradition held strong.

    But Christianity had competition.

    The National Coal Board (NCB) wielded a god-like power.

    “Our valley was going black, and the slag heap had grown so much it was half-way along to our house. Young I was and small I was, but young or small I knew it was wrong, and I said so to my father.”

    - How Green Was My Valley by Richard Llewellyn


    Aberfan is an upsetting reminder of perhaps why and how much
    our society changed so much in little over a generation.

    Tragedy swept down on Aberfan killing 116 children and 28 adults.

    21 October 1966.

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