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    First let me say I have every sympathy for those who died in circumstances we do not want to imagine that they endured in suffocating in that lorry.

    However:-

    I do see a lot of crocodile tears in TV and Press reports with the EU getting in on the act with it 'reported' (treat with a pinch of salt [Twapos]) that we would not be privy to sensitive information on illegal immigrants transiting Europe because of this lorry fiasco.

    It is reported/Twapos that China is blaming the UK for the lorry deaths, they failed to mention that it was in China they were issued with false passports/documents.

    The parents of the victims are holding vigils in Vietnam for the deceased, will these parents be held to account for putting their children in harms way and being complicit in their deaths, by raising/borrowing money to send them to China to get false documents, buy air tickets for initial part of the journey, then pay traffickers to get them into another country illegally.

    Will these same parents/vigil holders pay for repatriation of the deceased, or will the British taxpayer have to foot the bill (more than likely) for people who tried to gain illegal access to the UK. If the UK refuses to pay for the repatriation (very unlikely) will the UK Embassy in Vietnam be ransacked and will we be tarred as Western Imperialists.

    It is reported that some parents raised the equivalent of 30,000 per child to send them to the UK, what do they think the UK is, a gold plated economy/paradise, are they that uninformed that they did not realise that their child would be working in a nail bar during the day and as a prostitute at night to repay their borrowings.

    Even a Vietnamese ambassador said that with 30,000 they could lead a very comfortable life in Vietnam for 15 years.

    The Press/TV and Politicians are calling for measures to make sure that illegal immigrants lives are protected, hang on a minute, I may be wrong but don't illegal immigrants try to get into a country without being noticed, or are the Press/TV/Politicians suggesting that we now establish border controls at ports and airports with designated queues for illegal immigrants to ensure their safe arrival at our shores

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    Its the old story Ivan, we are a bloody soft nation, and they know it !!, they come in , having travelled through several free countries, just to register here, supposedly in fear of their lives etc. What we need is a good old fashioned winter here, like in the past, 5-6 weeks of snow and freezing , damp cold miserable winters that we have all known, then perhaps it would not be the land of milk and honey that they had imagined, kt
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    In 1952 the UN, that well known useless body who pass legislation no one takes notice of, passed a resolution saying that,' any person seeking refugee status or were being persecuted should seek refuge in the first safe country they came to'.

    That being the case why do so many attempt to go to countries such as UK, Oz, NZ, USA even though in doing so pass through so many safe countries.?
    Simply because the countries all have social security systems the envy of the world.

    As long as countries give more to such persons than to their own citizens this will continue.

    The current situation is horrific for those in the truck, and the families who still do not know if one of their relis is one of them!

    But no matter what rules are put in place by EU, it will continue.
    The EU are in many parts responsible for much of this, for years the French have pushed illegals across the channel to UK and the EU was fully aware of this but did nothing.
    Result, the UK is now full of sick birds, (ill Eagles).

    The only way to stop this is by the toughest border security possible and if this means emptying all containers on the quay side then so be it.
    With such practices in place I am sure after a short time much of the practice would cease.
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    why does Arab countries not take more people in plenty of work language mostly the same why come here lets sort out employment food banks and people living on the streets first on average 300.000 extra people a year comes in no wonder the NHS is at breaking point no houses and the coffers of our taxpayers tax is going fast. no work no in no house no in enough finances to last at least 5 years or no in tighten up the laws here simple? jp

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    When the Syrian Crisis started and a million "Refugees" started to cross over to here.
    Saudi said there were No "Refugees" in Saudi as they all had to go to europe and then one day europe and UK would become is lam ic countries,
    where do all these "refugees, all young men of a fighting age, get their mobile phones, all in good Jeans and clothes and money for the people smugglers from, Saudi,
    Ghadaffi said , we do not have to fight the west, we will take over by weight of numbers.
    IS also said they were sending their operatives over with the "refugees.
    This is a war.and they are the invaders and no one cares.

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    I always thought that an asylum seeker had to state his claim in the first safe country reached which to my mind would be Turkey Greece or Italy possibly France or Spain but if we're the first country they reached are they coming in on easyJet
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    One of the problems with stopping illegals is that we are an island and they can gain entry anywhere along the coast,I'd lilex to bet that large numbers have gained entry never m..ind about the Channel but what about the Eastern Coast small vessels could land them anywhere,even coming from say Holland as an example,I've never read about any gaining entry through Hull or The Tyne ,they could be landed anywhere on the coast from a small craft ,just a thought.

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    The biggest problem Dave, is the EU outer border is useless, and once in the EU they can roam where they like, and end up in France trying to get here. If the freedom to travel in the EU was revoked, they would have trouble at each border, another reason to get out, kt
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    Countries such as Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria and others are full of those wanting as they say,' to gain a better life'.
    A far better life in a country where work is not an essential to living.

    If life is so bad in these countries why do the people not rise up in numbers and remove those in power who they say are persecuting them?
    They have access to weapons, any amount, and from what we see on the news know how to use them.

    Take a good hard look at many of these countries, they are little removed from life in the middle ages, the countries need massive amount of work done on them just to bring them up to livable standards.
    That of course would mean days of hard work, no mate more fun to run around with a gun shooting at anything that moves.

    They will never change so the West if they do not want to be over run by them must put up stronger border protection, something that will remain almost impossible whilst under the heel of EU.

    But sadly there are some in UK and other Western countries that will take them in as they can easily be used as cheap labor.
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    the first thing they do when entering this country is dump anything that proves who you are passports id cards then the government has to take them in until they know who and were you came from on deportation they are given 500 pound to set them up many have done this many times at 500 quid a time? if any immigrant has thousands to get here that money would go a long way in their own lands so why come here there must be plenty of work in the middle east rebuilding the place. jp

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