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    Shhh, all refugees will want to live in Bolton after disasters elsewhere
    if it is promoted as the safest place. LOL.

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    Too late Keith
    They are all here now, that is why it is Boltonistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy daze john in oz View Post
    But it was only last year when NASA said that over the past two years average global temps had dropped by 0.6 of a degree.


    I have seen nothing on Global cooling reported apart from the following.

    The latest independent NASA and NOAA annual temperature announcements in February found that Earth's global surface temperatures in 2018 were the fourth warmest since 1880. According to NASA GISS, global temperatures in 2018 were 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.83 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean. Globally, 2018 was cooler than the previous three years. Collectively, the past five years are the warmest years in the modern record.

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    Posted on another thread NASA believes that we could of cooling in the Northern Hemisphere.
    Published in the Independent.
    Vic

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic mcclymont View Post
    Posted on another thread NASA believes that we could of cooling in the Northern Hemisphere.
    Published in the Independent.
    Vic



    Will take a look out of interest, thus far:

    “Global cooling” describes a long term period during which the earth’s average temperature is cooling. Although the average global temperature was slightly lower in 2017 and 2018 than in 2016, these drops were not record breaking. Global temperatures tend to fluctuate from one year to the next and NASA data shows that overall global warming is occurring: the planet is getting hotter and hotter over time, and at a faster and faster pace.

    Seems correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic mcclymont View Post
    Posted on another thread NASA believes that we could of cooling in the Northern Hemisphere.
    Published in the Independent.
    Vic


    Found the report, seems like many if's, could's etc.
    EG: Headline; ‘Hemisphere-wide implications’:
    Nasa warns temperatures in Europe could plunge
    if Arctic warming causes major ocean current to reverse.

    Emphasis on if Arctic warming and could.

    Basically, would seem to come down to Global warming
    for anything further to occur regarding this, if Global
    warming does not exist: No problem ?

    K.

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    Again the talk that January was the hottest for 141 years.
    That tells me that it could well have been as hot at some other point in the past.

    141 years ago brings us to 1879, there were no global temperatures being kept then, some countries may have not even bothered taking them.
    Who is kidding whom?

    But on another TV station they claim the 141 years refers to New York??

    In 1879 there were no sky scrapers, very little bitumen and a very much smaller town.
    Now the sky scrapers, the bitumen and other infrastructure create heat banks, in my opinion they would effect the temperature even in winter.

    Rodders, you are a person of good common, how do you see this one?
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    Johnno.

    You know I'm a firm believer that global warming is a fact, and sensible solutions must be found to at least slow down, preferably halt, the rapid march to a serious world problems.

    Fine, that said and done, I am a continuous seeker of knowledge. My hat's off to you mate. You hit on something. It's called "The heat Island Effect".

    I couldn't answer your question, so I typed in Does the road surface and the tall buildings effect the weather in New York city? A ton of info came up, from many well respected sources all that I read in agreement that it does.

    It's worth looking up.

    Cheers and a Thank and a Like and good-on-yer. Rodders (so I'm still a greenie and your still a flat-earther)

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    I remember being told in school as a kid that temperatures were generally warmer in cities rather than the countryside,
    not rocket science.

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    Rodders, further to my last post about the 141 years.

    Different media sources put forward different stories.
    It now appears the 141 years covers all of USA, no where else.
    Also comments that ocean warming was not the cause.

    Last year here in Oz we were told that part of the heat wave problem was the result of higher than usual warming of the Indian Ocean and the Gulf Stream.

    Just where is the info coming from?

    But weather patterns here have been very odd this year, apart from the odd hot day here in Victoria we are having a very poor summer.
    February is normally our hottest month of the year, few days below 30 and many in the high 30's and a few at 40.
    This year the coolest for about 50 years according to records with day and night temperatures up to as much as 10 below average.

    We have over the past few days had rain fall similar to that of mid winter, not mid summer.

    I am of the opinion, as are many here now that it is not so much Global warming/Climate Change, rather the seasons are changing.

    The Aboriginals often say that we have six seasons here in Oz not four, maybe they ae right they have been here for a lot longer than we have.

    In London there are bets on snow on Christmas day on the roof of the weather station there, but it never snows there, heat bank syndrome????

    Our city weather recording station was moved a few years ago, it sat along side the Exhibition buildings, a heat bank if ever there was, now about 1 Klm away in Flagstaff Gardens, yet they still compare weather details of years ago with now.!!!!

    many scientists say we have only 12 years to fix it, yet many govs such as ours here in Oz, UK and others say they want 'net' zero emissions by 2050, leaving a hiatus of some 18 years, and just what is 'net' zero emissions?
    One last point mate, as you have discovered there is relevant info out there but few bother to source it, you did, good on ya mate.
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