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17th February 2018, 09:08 PM
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I didn't read anything about Labour rejecting the idea Vic (where was that)I did read that the Tories did fear that Labour would portray it as privatisation.
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Jim.B.
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17th February 2018, 09:20 PM
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Internet news this week, Corbyn flatly rejected any co-operation.
Vic
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17th February 2018, 09:26 PM
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A description I heard quite often when I was in the QA is they have a lot of Managers the trouble is they are supermarket type managers not clinical type managers now I think I could spot the difference and the problem is you were a lot of people managing for managing sake
Now besides a missed diagnosis when they put me in front of a cardiothoracic specialist who said I hadn't had a heart attack and passed me on to a stroke specialist who said I haven't had a stroke the only specialist they had left was a geriatrician who managed to make some of my symptoms fit his knowledge that was a huge mistake
Now go into the systems I take a diabetic drug called metformin but I take a modified release version because I am allergic to the full quick release type while I was in the QA despite my protestations that they were giving me the wrong drug in six weeks I had three drug mistakes at Petersfield hospital in the same. I had 6 drug mistakes in 12 weeks in Stoke Mandeville I had over 20 drug mistakes now lucky enough my head still switched on and I am paranoid about checking I get the right dose of the right drug this is not done because they're sloppy it's done because they are rushing around trying to get everything done
I still think we have the best system in the world and the only people that I ever hear about privatisation of the health service from tend to be from think tank organisations which seem to be always left wing biased I don't believe that any government could if they wanted to privatise the NHS .
Despite their mistakes I think it's the best system in the world but it needs sorting out and the best way to sort it out if the take it away from government get rid of all these silly little Foundation trusts run it as a national organisation with National buying with huge buying power stop the Postcode Lottery on what drugs you're allowed and what drugs you're not allowed and run it as a complete business autonomously from government and until you do that it will always be a party political football and I've been watching it for all my life and Everytime We get a run up to an election every side promise is it more money and to run it better than the last lot it's time they stop doing this I made it it's own non governmental organisation
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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17th February 2018, 09:31 PM
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Hi Rob
as you know, my lad is a Consultant at the QA, He said to me years ago that it run by ex supermarket managers. with no idea of medicine.
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17th February 2018, 09:35 PM
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The reason i posted this was that it sounded genuine, they are having a meeting here on the Island , and showing the full film, so not intended to turn political, but something that has been a slow decline through all political parties. The NHS is probably something that is dearest to all of us, kt
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18th February 2018, 07:48 AM
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if you are in chronic pain and going on a waiting list that could be up to 18 months for an operation and the NHS can pay out of their funds to get you sorted in a private clinic you would take that option i live with it and my wife has got the other hip to go yet? money is not the answer to the NHS throwing people at the NHS is up to 300.000 extra people are coming into this country every year and has been for decades the NHS can only do so much and is at breaking point we are living longer and as we know we hit the wall at some stage in our lives but the NHS will do its best to keep us going? jp
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18th February 2018, 08:47 AM
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18th February 2018, 10:05 AM
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John Pruden
if you are in chronic pain and going on a waiting list that could be up to 18 months for an operation and the NHS can pay out of their funds to get you sorted in a private clinic you would take that option i live with it and my wife has got the other hip to go yet? money is not the answer to the NHS throwing people at the NHS is up to 300.000 extra people are coming into this country every year and has been for decades the NHS can only do so much and is at breaking point we are living longer and as we know we hit the wall at some stage in our lives but the NHS will do its best to keep us going? jp
###john the statement you have made is 99 per cent of the reasons the NHS is the cause of such discontent in the country ......the answer of throwing more money at it is not correct ......it is a bottomless pit ......but the most wonderful pit when we need it .....cappy
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18th February 2018, 10:23 AM
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A huge number of people have no idea of life before the NHS, i would think a large number of us on this site were born before 1948, so our parents had to pay for us to be born. I was a lucky one, born 1941, but dad was in the royal marines, and the forces, even though it was wartime, had maternity bases in which the expectant mothers went, In my case i was born in Wickham hampshire, where there was a large house for that purpose. My brother born 1945 was the usual for those days, born at home, and if you could afford the money for the attendance of a midwife, everything had to be paid for, call a doctor, pay a fee, medication had to be paid for etc. Switch to today, yobs drunk, and hitting nurses, security staff in all hospitals, interpreters supplied, the list goes on. i am afraid its a pampered world that surely cannot go on, kt
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18th February 2018, 10:33 AM
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I still have the receipt from when I was born in hospital in 1935, the Hospital was owned by the Town Council,
It cost Dad more than one weeks wages at that time, £2...12 shillings and sixpence. Mother and I were in Hospital for ten days.
Every visit to the Doctors had to be paid for . No Free prescriptions,
and today they Whinge.
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