I see on TV that the Chinese are upset with Malaysian Airways and asking Malaysian Airways to give them their families lives (not bodies, but lives) back, even with the best will in the world that may not be possible.
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I see on TV that the Chinese are upset with Malaysian Airways and asking Malaysian Airways to give them their families lives (not bodies, but lives) back, even with the best will in the world that may not be possible.
#71... Ivan when you take into consideration that the Chinese losses on the malaysian Flight were probably the only son or daughter that, that chinese family had, as more than likely were born during the restriction the Chinese Government had on insisting on one child families at the time. You must give allowances for their real outpourings of grief. The Chinese also put a lot on Family affairs and have their own beliefs and history. To some of these familys there will be no carrying on of family name, I know this is not the only reason for their grief, but must also go a long way to amplifying it. I also worked with chinese and found them one of the most hard working people I have worked with, loss of face was their biggest fear, and to see them in the abject state you see on TV screens is rarely seen in the Chinese people as rarely loose their composure. They are wanting the impossible I know, and they know as well most likely, however in any such incident they are probably trying to take out their frustration. I think most people in the world will understand their feelings. If it is ever proved or claimed by any extremist group the downing of this flight and any such group is ex Chinese and are brought to justice, under Chinese law there will be no clemecy shown, nor should there be, in the west they would be going for their holidays. Cheers John S
I think that unless a recovery of the Black Box,we will never really know just what happened,and that now seems to be the case,barring a miracle .Quote:
Originally Posted by JOHN PRUDEN
How very sad this has been,and one must feel for all that have lost their loved ones.
The latest on the News right now 4pm local time Aussie,tells that all hope is now gone.
Let us all bow out heads in sorrow for 1 minute in respect for the lives lost in this tragedy.
Silence. ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- seconds
Thank You
Doc
Latest news 15 minutes ago. A satelite has noted 122 items over a 400 square kilometer area. Experst are convinced they are parts from the missing aircraft.
Is anyone absolutely fed up by the stupid tosh spouted by so called experts that have been brought out the woodwork, especially those so called grief counsellors?
Many of these so called experts have rubbished the Malaysian Authorities for either concealing evidence or not giving the correct/true picture and especially laid into them when some families were contacted by text letting them know that the inevitable had happened. How else were they going to contact them if they were not at the hotels, carrier pigeon, hoards of pizza delivery drivers on scooters going round the suburbs of Chinese towns and villages or what?
Here and now I am thinking of starting up a page congratulating the Malaysian Minister who daily has had to stand in front of the baying wolf pack of press and give them something, even though at times he has had absolutely no evidence regarding the flights disappearance. To me he has done a magnificent job under immense pressure and looks genuinely distressed, especially so as it could be that two of his fellow countrymen the pilots) have perpetrated the disaster and these were people that daily millions of people put their trust in.
If I could I would contact him directly and congratulate him on doing such a good job under such extreme circumstances whilst at the same time loading all those press onto a plane and flying them off somewhere with all the communications systems switched off so they had no access to there sat. phones, Ipads and so called experts and then see how they could handle the situation.
rgds
JA
Oh dear Grief Councillors , I am sure they are well meaning , after my wife died I had several of them get in touch , sent I believe by the hospice , They were about as much use as a one legged man in a buttock kicking contest , I said after a ten minute call from one well meaning lady , will you please stop asking me how I feel ( at least ten times in ten minutes ) , she said that was her job to ascertain how I felt , OK , I feel Forking Shot , she never rang back after that , well ,meaning but .....
I had the same Rob when my wife died (age 50), everybody says they know how you feel, but they don't, even insensitive ones, who think they are being comforting and who say 'I know how you feel my cat died last week' or 'I know how you feel my father died two years ago aged 97', you don't expect your young fit wife to die. Grief counsellors, some may need them, I didn't, I had a business to run, two teenage daughters to solace and employees to consider, maybe I was selfish, but I was too busy to grieve, may sound callous, but it was what my wife would have wanted, to carry on and look after those who depended on me, no space for counsellors or other do gooders.Quote:
Originally Posted by robpage
I wasn't being flippant about my remarks about the relatives of flight 370, just making an observation, perhaps mass grief is different to private, hope I never find out
Actually , I had a lady sympathise who had just lost her cat , but one lady aid i lost my husband forty five years ago , and it is just like yesterday , She said it is like a thick dense dark forest , you can never get over it , so you slowly hack your way through , you never get to the other side , but the hacking through keep your mind occupied
#75... John one of the biggest annoyances the famillys have to put up with will be the reporters. They are like a braying pack of hounds on the scent of blood. There is no discrimination with them and if they get an easy target go after it like any animal would. You can see this in the TV footage. At times they have no shame, they should be leaving these people alone for them to grieve in private. John S
A group are going to sue the gov of Malaysia for not giving out enough information and for hiding facts from them. Well hello, you can only give out information as it comes to hand and in this inastnce it had to be correct. How bad would it have been if by giving out the wrong info the relatives though all was OK? But the media, like the vultures they are, continue to feed on it.