Elf'n saffety

[vic mcclymont]

I require a new ASDL cable for my computer.
I visited Maplins the electronics shop and asked an assistant if they could fix a plug to the end of a cable.
"No sorry mate no cando" was the reply.
I just stood staring, wondering what to say next.
When the assistant replied "Health & Safety". Again I just stood staring and eventually walked off shaking my head.
Now was it H&S or were the buggers wanting me to buy a set of crimping tools at £15.00.
Makes you wonder, how we survived?
Vic

[Chris Allman]

You should have gone in with your safety helmet on, orange overalls and steel toe capped boots, he would have done it then, no doubt.

[robpage]

I suspect he really did not know how to do it

[john walker]

I require a new ASDL cable for my computer.
I visited Maplins the electronics shop and asked an assistant if they could fix a plug to the end of a cable.
"No sorry mate no cando" was the reply.
I just stood staring, wondering what to say next.
When the assistant replied "Health & Safety". Again I just stood staring and eventually walked off shaking my head.
Now was it H&S or were the buggers wanting me to buy a set of crimping tools at £15.00.
Makes you wonder, how we survived?
Vic

I am a health & safety rep at my place of work and as such I am well versed in all aspects of day to day health & safety rules & regs. There is nothing in U.K. law to stop the guy from doing this. He either can not be bothered to do this or does not know how to and is using health & safety as a smoke screen.

[robpage]

The problem is to crimp a plug on an ADSL or a Cat5 is it is easy to do but easy to mess up , if he did it as a favour for free , and wrecked the plug , or the contacts were not right , and you had to drive home then return , you would be angry and the shop would have to supply another plug . They supply leads with plugs attached Product Code A93CG or if you needed a cable attached then a junction box Product code FK76H . Rather than tell a customer that they need this and that and crimping a plug can be done incorrectly they tell you about the safety elf . You may also find that the insurers for teh company exclude working with tools from shop counter employees cover as they are not trained , and if the guy nipped his finger he would go sick and put an industrial claim in . Not so much Elf' and Safety but more like Lawyers for you , that is probably the real reason .

[Louis the Amigo]

Hi shipmates counter sales people, are not allowed to do any eletrical work in store its in the staff manual its not about heatlh or safety but law!!! if an untrained person done it wrong? even a simple job like putting on a plug , and blew up you machine/eletricial goods or your house? his company would not like to pay you out, and he would be down the job centre in double quick time, The counter sales person told you the wrong reason. That why all new items come with plugs fixed.

[Rocky]

Looks to me like he had never been shown how to do the job rather than that darn elf excuse but there are way to many courses these days and all of them useless

A course to teach people how to go up and down a ladder -- these guys had been doing that for years and must have been doing something wrong to need a full day training (can you go the wrong way on a ladder even drunk i don't think i could go side to side on one )

After years at school and college followed by a stint at uni and they come up with the sitting down at a desk course -- if you are that dumb that you cant figure that one out in all them years then a change of career is advised but how long would it take to train them how to lean on a shovel or brush and would the local council be in need of extra staff for training purposes

I was recently in hospital not to far from boltonistan one of its satellite states i think you would call Blackburn i had tubes wires and probes stuck everyplace they could think of and no emergency button to call for help so had to wait till i saw someone and then ask for a drink of water (roughly every 20 mins for 3 hours ) when i did finally get a drink in a huge jug filled with ice (sounding good eh wait for it ) i got told off for drinking out of the jug and refusing to use the glass that came with it but hey i don't know who had splashed blood all over the glass or what they were in for all i knew was i sure as hell did not want it and got my big fat hairy ass out of there as soon as possible

So as far as elf and safety is concerned they need to prioritize things forget the sitting down course and ladder course how about a course on washing glasses in hospital

If them years at sea could not kill me off with storms and warzones im sure they will struggle in a hospital and i wont just lie there and make it easy for them

[Captain Kong]

Hi Rocky,
Blackburn is on the hit list this year, as one of the failing Hospitals, I was very surpirised that Boltonistan was not on it this year, it was on last year when I was in,
For the second time in a couple of years I have unplugged myself, [ no H & S training required yet] and walked out. tho` first time I walked out and got hit by a car and was back inside the same ward and bed within 20 minutes.
Last year, went in and was accused of being a Drug Dealer, Loud Voice, " WE DO NOT GIVE MEDICATION TO DRUG DEALERS." Down the road I went and the end result was in Honolulu for a complaint they should have discovered
and that left me with only four days left to live without medication.
So Does Health and Safety cover the hospital treatments and the Nursing Staff??

Good Health
Brian

[cappy]

got to agree on what you say there are so many laws passed by so few people often from another planet it is not true ...some new laws are good ie police checks on people working with children etc but in the last 30 years or so I think we have to many laws which take away......freedom of speech.....if idont like something for whatever reason ....based on my personal feelings why should I not be able to state that fact ....surely that is my right .....I find the majority seem to agree with me on most of the subjects that grieve me.....but somehow the law has been passed to give the minority more rights than I feel I have .....mention anything based on race ie Japanese ww2 germanyww2 or the countless people who use our nhs as a free service then scoot of without paying anything at all.....or sending money to the poor in Africa or india or any where elseand I am vilified.....if I don't like moslems or bush Baptists or mormans or other different people why can I not state this we are slowly being gagged while the minorities sit smug and grow stronger.....the tail now wags the dog

[Rocky]

Hi Brian

Yep have seen your posts on medical stupidity in some places and your run of bad luck the best treatment i have had local or at least within travel distance was at Fairfield in bury i was stuck in there with drips tubes wires and everything even the machine that went beep staff were great cleaners on ward at least 2 times a day same 3 guys in the ward for the full 3 weeks i was in there not 9 people in 3 beds in 12 hours like blackburn

The biggest problem i had was not the staff but another patient i wanted to put a pillow over his face every night a totally horrible person pretending to be sleeping when his wife came to visit refusing to get out of bed and sit in a chair while staff tried to change sheets and made their life hell ( just cos you are ill does not excuse you for bad manners and ignorance )

No angel myself i was told off a few times after the wires and drips were removed and i could get more than 2 foot from the bed raiding the linen trolley for clean sheets and making my own bed in the mornings to save the staff the trouble i was up showered bed made and reading the papers before the staff came to wake everyone for the daily meds session

But hey if they do a good job you try to make your stay as stress free for them as you can A good cabbie /waiter /barstaff get better tips only thing you can do for nurses is take away the stress