whats happened to the pubs

Ivan very very few people had a car years ago and most lived within walking distance of their home to work so when they married they still wanted tobe near to where they worked hence the reason for not moving away.It was difficult to get a house years ago and many lived in their mothers front parlour or often "in rooms" of an old person living on their own.It was a matter of waiting for someone in the area to pop their clogs,maybe it was their grandparent so they would be first in line.
Regards.
Jim.B.

Alf totally agree with you, in Hong Kong the bloody giant TV with say three of them within eye line either volume off or at full volume used to give me the tom tits! Why do people have to go to a pub & scream shout at the TV screen get smashed out of their tree use language even I find unacceptable. Go to your mates, trash their homes, start a fight with them, annoy their neighbours not the punters in the local who are regulars. You note those cretins only come to the local when a particular game is on too? An abomination that is for sure.

Where once a place were people would gather mostly weekends have a laugh and a joke meet up with friends and family that had worked all week, Going about there daily work and separate ways, All in all a very enjoyable experience and a pint was a pint not dish water. Pubs today are empty because of people not gathering as in family and friends. { WHY } A walk to your local and back you are taking your life in your hands, this is the country over not any one area we read and here every day of stabbings, muggings, murderes, senceless attacks from bloody idiots who come alive after 3pm looking to fund there next fix. I attended a nieces birthday party in one of my locals just before xmas i was amazed when entering the gents young men not lads snorting drugs in there useing wherever they could line it up. The days of a few pints in your local pubs are dead and gone. We are fortunate to have one very well run local club on our doorstep were most on this site would be happy to spend an evening. But as for local pubs if you are a stranger in town you just don't go there i also blame the cheap booze sold in supermarkets for the decline. We can all remember docking and awaiting to pay off the next day in ports the country over going to the local outside the dock gate especially here in Liverpool if some of you lads could take a trip from the Caradoc { Gladstone Dock} into Liverpool city centre you wouldn't believe your eyes how many pubs are actually trading great shame. Regards lads Terry. :(

As i have said before we had about 52 pubs in Dunedin now i doubt if they would be twenty pubs now .The drinking habits to me when i first came here how different it was to from the pubs here and the ones in the UK .the local pub when i came home was just on the corner and usevto take my mum and the old man and we would have a sing song and you very seldom saw any drunks happy maybe .The pubs here was forthe simple reason as getting as much beer into you in a short time and if you started to have sing songyou would get thrown out( i was no exception )
Now there is more bistros ,licence restaurantsand clubs and i think that is the closing of some pubs
When on previous visists to the Uk i did enjoy some of the country pubs and i hope to do the same when i come over later on this year

It amases me that the buzz word is community hub, they attempt to reinvent the community centre the nuclleus of society that is no longer the pub. Last time we had a pub with no beer, was in the 50's when LLanelli beat the All Blacks. POLITICIANS started the rot, the pit head bars became supermarkets as do the pubs now. The pub was the the centre of a community, few know now what a community is or what community spirit was.

K.

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Originally Posted by Keith at Tregenna

. The pub was the the centre of a community, few know know what a community is or what community spirit was.

K.

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We had a street party here for the Jubilee , some of us have lived here thirty years and don't know who the neighbours are , we followed that with an outdoors New Years Eve Party which was even better than the Jubilee . Politics or jobs did not kill the pub , what did is te community where you drive off to work at seven am drive home at six Pm , and rarely venture outside the door . In my youth in a mining village in Derbyshire the guys from the pits or local companies used to stop off on the way home for a swift one or three , when they walked from the bus stop to the house , the pubs at six thirty were as busy as the ten thirty closing time , we drive now , we don't want to loose our licence . Then the huge international Breweries started to take the barrel that they charged their landlords too far to high a price . Drink Driving was the first nail in the pub's coffin , I would have the odd pint at lunchtime now , but I regard my licence to precious to risk . The conversion of pubs to attract the younger drinkers , who were perceived to be better spenders , with noise , TV sport , and modern drinks , that was teh second nail , they don't have the spare cash that teh brewers thought . then the cigarette ban , well I love the fresh air in the bar now , I cannot have a full pub and one that I can breathe in , but the biggest nail of all society has changed , dad no longer calls in for the six till seven pint or two , there is no longer a community because we are isolationist , we don't know our neighbours , and what was left the brewers strangled with greed

Hi Richard,
Agree with you regarding French bistros, there are lots of great ones and enjoyable outings. However they are experiencing same problems here in France where Ive lived for 20 years. Our one village bar closed recently and cant find new buyer, However dont think you can compare the old style British PUB with a French bar,bistro or auberge, Thats not saying I dont enjoy them here like you and the eating really supplements the drink side. The old style British pub is now a rarity
Cheers
Stuart

Classic and French, visited a few. From the outside kind of place you would not stop at at home, no major signs or bright lights but a joy to behold for those that enter. Some of the best farm fresh foods ever. Last visit to the dordogne was a treat with wine en vrac at chateaux and the whole trip a cultural joy. Love the South Bank in Paris, Epernay and Rheims and Champange. Christmas markets at Dunkerqe and Chateau Tilques near Calais.

You reside in a fine country.

K.

I sold the two I had when we came to Oz back in 1980. But even then the writing was on the wall, drink driving was begining to have an effect as was the cheap supermarket beer. At one time in the mid to late 80's it was estimated that up to 10,000 closed each year.
But the same here in Oz, many now gone to be replaced by big conglomerates selling food, entertainment and of course the pokies.

Yes I certainly agree times have changed, Local Sociability has all but gone Neighbours dont talk and the main line of contact with this generation is the computor, even shopping on it will be another death nell for local shopping, The sign of no trust is no Social contact and that is what has happened. All nite Clubs are a nesting place for violent people too, its all changed yes it has. all the best Glenn