VOTE FOR ME!!

I find it hard to believe that our present P.M. is shouting foul over her suggested misleading the public 18 years ago as this is history and did not concern her. Yet only a matter of weeks ago there was an obvious attempt to discredit Tony Abbot over what happened at university 30 years ago when he supposedly spoke to some girl in discrimatory way. This of course makes him anti female. Lets be fair. Our P.M. is to me a scheming and devious person, not fit to sit in the top residence in the country, both morally or otherwise. All this bickering she started, she will be hoping will disappear in the smokescreen of Royal inquiries into the bum bashers of the past. Cheers John Sabourn

In the early 90's working in the uni system we ahd a lecturer who was also a barister. He crossed swords with her in court one day and I recall him telling me about this new solicitor he had seen. 'Heaven help us if any one like her gets into politics and more so if they become PM.'

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Originally Posted by Les Woodard

Good to see that you have finally arrived in the real world of politics John ...

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Les, I have always had doubts about the parlimentary system the way it operates here in Oz, but events of the past few weeks ahve shown just what a farce it is.

Taking a long look at it all I am now positive that all politicians should belong to Actors Equity as that seems the only union that they are qualified to belong to. That goes for the bloody lot world wide. As said before we have ended up with this rabble simply because so many voters where and still are so mindless to believe the hype when elections come round. My personal view is that all hustings should be banned twelve months before an election so that the populace can vote on how they have performed while in office.

We NZ have the MMP system for electing the goverment and we have listed MPs who mostly sit in the back of the house and some never say aword they are paid a very generous salaryand perks what for .For NZi think we have to many MPs for the size of the country .But let us not to forget this is democracy they say that is what we went to war for.

As Seamen we were pretty broad minded re. sex and different peoples persuasions as regards bi sexual desires. However these were kept under wraps as were against the existing laws at the time. However now we have the permissive society where it is broadcast to the world stage via Gay carnivals etc. where it is fast becoming that gay is the way to go, I do at times feel very offended. Especially when politicians flaunt their own sexual deviations, trying to pass laws re gay marriages and adoption of children in same sex marriages. Why is it necessary to have a Church marriage with 2 persons of the same sex, when their leader lives in so called sin with her boyfriend and is a self confessed unbeliever. They should keep their own petty desires and morals or lack of them as the case may be, for people to decide for themselves. They should have no way in telling the electorate on what they should or should not believe in. They are more concerned in trying not to offend alien religions than those of their own country. Politicians at times which is most of the time make me want to puke. Cheers John Sabourn

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We NZ have the MMP system for electing the goverment and we have listed MPs who mostly sit in the back of the house and some never say aword they are paid a very generous salaryand perks what for .For NZi think we have to many MPs for the size of the country .But let us not to forget this is democracy they say that is what we went to war for.

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Lou, Any system is as good or as bad as those who run it. There are all those African counties that are "democracies", there is Russia with It's "democracy" and so it goes on. I do not feel as though with all the loss of life and quality of life in wars are respected by those who are manipulating the democratic system to their own ends. Whether it is Africa, Russia or those countries like mine and yours, corruption has many versions.

All the best,
Richard Q

In the council area where I live we have a suburb named Broadmeadows but loving known as Moslemmeadows for very obvious reasons, Just do not attempt to post a letter there as all the letter boxes are black.LOL
On a number of occasions during the year the public are allowed to attend council meetings and at the end of the evening a small buffet is put on for all.
It was decided some time ago that Pork and Ham would be banned from the menu so as not to offend SOME of the populous.
The council became the butt of many jokes om talk back radio and recieved over 1000 complints in writing, e-mails and phone calls. One person even sent a piece of Pork fat to council.
Eventualy the council bowed to public concerns and the decission was abandoned.
People power put the council in it's place.
Governments only get away whith what they do because we allow them to.

I was a real estate salesman and a building contract salesman from 1971 until 1989. The ethics in the front of the exam to get a sub license required you to look after your vendors interests at all times. However a solicitor once told me that a an agent's evaluation of a sale price was worthless unless carried out by a sworn valuer, thus the door was always wide open for a shonky agent to put a false value on the vendor's bricks and mortar. Very very few were willing to pay for the sworn valuation. In defence of myself I always recommended a sworn valuer;9 times out of 10 the advice was declined. Analysis of local market forces will always lead folk to assume their property is worth as much or more than the Joneses. Give a dog a bad name and it will stick.
However.......... I have to agree that we here in Oz are massively over governed. Local, state, and commonwealth politicos have all got their snouts and trotters in the trough. If international companies around the world can operate a successful business on a central computer center why can't this bloody government wipe out all the useless bastards in state government ? It is after all one country with only 22,000,000 of us in it. The local guys need a good kick up the **** also, but they are an evil that Canberra needs for ears and eyes on the ground. Oh sorry another 123 have arrived up north by boat and 239 visa carrying students with no intention of learning the Aussie way of life are disembarking at various airports as I labor over this. And of course Canberra has shut down until February for the summer holidays. !!

[QUOTE=Les Woodard;109988 My personal view is that all hustings should be banned twelve months before an election so that the populace can vote on how they have performed while in office.[/QUOTE]

Another one of your good ideas, Les, I couldn't agree with you more, mate.

For those members who may be unaware, voting here in Australia is compulsory for federal, state and local council elections and failure to do so without valid excuse (e.g. death or lunacy) invariably incurs a fine. Britain in the 1960's had a somewhat cavalier attitude towards voting and so it came as a shock when I arrived in Australia to discover that I would be required to spend so much time inside a polling booth. I'm used to it now. For several weeks prior to an election, political party machines move into top gear. By virtue of the ever-hungry media it is we, the people, who are fed a diet of barely concealed propaganda most of which even Goebbels would have disowned. Camouflaged as solid gold promises, once more the lies spew forth from the mouths of incumbent M.P.'s and prospective 'trough jockeys' alike, a ticker-tape of endless deceit designed to bamboozle an electorate mostly devoid of political nous. Finally, 'Polling Day' arrives and the shell-shocked, brainwashed thousands make their way to the polling booths to cast their votes. Amongst them will be those who, with little serious thought, will vote for the same political party as their parents and grandparents before them, regardless of the fact that it may not be in their own best interests. There will be others, beguiled and seduced by a handsome face, silky tongue, or pretty face and big boobs, who will vote accordingly (unmindful that the devil comes in many guises). Some, known as the 'donkey voters', frustrated by the dubious practice and ineffectiveness of all major parties, will leave there election slip empty or in large letters scrawled across the page will question the legitamacy of all concerned. There will also be a hard core of the party faithful who actually believe some of the tripe dished out by their fellow party members and feel an inner glow that their vote may go towards the creation of an enlightened age. Finally there will be the rest of us who will vote for whom we believe will cause less damage and heartache for the country and it's people and having voted will feel a certain sense of relief (like the lancing of a boil) as we leave the polling booth, our civic duty performed, free to get on with our lives....that is until the next bl---y election.:D

......Roger.