Bosun James Ryan

[Daniel Ryan]

Hi,

I'm looking to see if anyone has any information on James Ryan? He was my great-grandfather. As far as I believe, he was a bosun on the 'Flaminian', and was at sea until 1967- if I remember correctly. He was from Waterford but must have settled in Liverpool around the 1920's or 30's. Any information or anything at all to do with him, I'd be eternally grateful to hear, as he's always been an interesting character to me but I never got the chance to meet him. Also, if anyone does remember him, I don't mind whether it's good or bad!

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[Doc Vernon]

Reference:	BT 372/16/27
Description:	R91903 RYAN J 01/12/1908 WATERFORD
Date:	1913-1972 R91903 RYAN J 01/12/1908 WATERFORD | The National Archives

[Doc Vernon]

His CRS10 which would have a lot more info will be found either here

Ryan D to Ryan J | The National Archives

or here as there is an overlap of Initials

Search results: BT 382/1573 | The National Archives

[Doc Vernon]

SS Flaminian (1917) | Military Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia
https://www.revolvy.com/topic/SS%20F...tem_type=topic

This one I think is too new but nice looker
FLAMINIAN - Yard No 445 - Diesel Cargo - Ellerman Wilson Line - Built 1956

[Doc Vernon]

Flaminian

3227

315

42.4

65

1917

1917 FLAMINIAN, Ellerman Lines Ltd, Liverpool. 1943 EMPIRE FLAMINIAN, MOWT managed by Ellerman's Wilson Line Ltd. 1947 Stevedore Training Ship for Royal Engineers at Marchwood, Hants. 1950 Scrapped Dover.

This may be it in a state!??
rp3361 - Ellerman Line - Flaminian - photo 6x4 | eBay

[Doc Vernon]

Crew Lists for that Ship possibly he may be on the list here?

Official No:

140521

140511; 140518; 140521; 140523; 140525 | The National Archives

140521; 140523; 140525; 140529; 140552; 140553; 140554; 140559; 140565 | The National Archives

[Doc Vernon]

Capture Flaminian.jpg

[Frederick Lacey]

Could this be him...

James Ryan..Born 1st December, 1908. Waterford. Died October.1984. age at death. 75 years. District.Liverpool. Vol.36. Page.237.

[Daniel Ryan]

Reference:	BT 372/16/27
Description:	R91903 RYAN J 01/12/1908 WATERFORD
Date:	1913-1972 R91903 RYAN J 01/12/1908 WATERFORD | The National Archives

That's him, I bought those records about a year ago. It's pretty much the only things I have/know about him, I've been looking everywhere to see if I can find anything else!

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Thank you Doc, had him down as born 1900, 10 yrs either way but 803 results came up!


Is this him Daniel? from ancestry: death 30th Aug,1986.

Family
Parents
John Ryan
1881–1961
Mary Walsh
1874–1919
Siblings
Margaret Ryan 1911–1981
Michael Ryan 1914–1991
Nicholas John Ryan 1918–

Not sure I have the correct James, shall wait for Daniel to confirm.

Thanks for the welcomes! Unfortunately not, I do have some early records from when he was a baby but anything to do with him joining the navy, settling in Liverpool etc. is proving really difficult. I know he first went to sea when he was around fourteen and I think after he retired from the navy he became a night watchmen for boats on the river Mersey. The problem is with family history is different relative tell you completely different things!

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Could this be him...

James Ryan..Born 1st December, 1908. Waterford. Died October.1984. age at death. 75 years. District.Liverpool. Vol.36. Page.237.

Aye, again that's him. He never really settled into life on land. After all, he was sea for all but about 24 years of his life in total, that's what makes him so interesting and mysterious to me!

[Doc Vernon]

Hello again Daniel
You mention that you bought those things earlier on from Kew,were they the Seamans Pouch or the CRS10 AS THE LATTER WOULD HAVE LOTS MORE INFO PLUS AN OLD PIC OF HIM WHEN HE FIRST JOINED!