Thanks Ivan.
I was about to say something similar but you covered it well, typical modern half assed adventure, Heath Robinson comes to mind.
Sad realy.
Des
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Thanks Ivan.
I was about to say something similar but you covered it well, typical modern half assed adventure, Heath Robinson comes to mind.
Sad realy.
Des
#30 It’s a hard thing to say and mean Ivan , but is a better death than what people were thinking of lying there gasping for breath and hoping for death to come quickly . More fitting knowing they died quickly and had no need to lie there thinking about it. JS
Going back to earlier submarine escape techniques , the only one at one time was the Davies escape lung usually via the conning tower , this of course if at a maneagable depth, and had to decompress on the way up. The only alternative to the decompression was a short French Training film I saw was where the escapee was inserted into a coffin like tube and shot to the surface , this did away with the decompression. , a bit like being shot out out of a cannon at the circus . Maybe the French still have in their submarines , believe Australia narrowly missed being the proud owners of such if so , when they cancelled the French order for submarines . JS ...
who passed this as sea worthy the crew thankfully would have known nothing the implosion would have killed in mili seconds my thought are with the families..jp
Reports from one USA source that used similar subs to gain access to the 'Titanic' and recover artifacts from her.
Low oxygen levels would eventually bring on carbon dioxide poisoning which would send them into a deep sleep well before the implosion which wrecked the sub last night.
Some debris has floated to the surface but there is no way any bodies can be recovered.
The spokesman also went on to say he did not think this sub had been checked and given a certificate of seaworthiness by any marine body.
John, oxygen and cd levels have nothing to do with the implosions/deep sleep, the implosion will (and experts say did) happened as soon as communication was lost in the first hours of descent, they will not have had time to go into a deep sleep, death would have been instantaneous, they would have known nothing about it. The implosion is only the effect of external pressure on a weak structure and a void, those are the only three factors required, the submarine (For want of a better word) being the void as you cannot have an implosion on a solid objectQuote:
Originally Posted by happy daze john in oz
Those lads were dead from the moment they lost comms with the mother ship. Comms were lost 90 mins, was it? after they were into the descent. They must be able to work out what depth she was when it went bang as surely she was linked to data recorders?
Regardless, I am sure someone will be an expert and talk aload of tish on TV about what went wrong.
The young lad according to his aunt on TV this morning said he was terrified about going but his father promised him it would be the trip of a life time, well he got that right. I do believe in the Honour your father and your mother thing but this was diffo a time when the child should have told his dad to do one.
#33; I would imagine John that Lloyd’s , Norske Veritas, and the American Bureau would have turned their nose up at it. So in all possibility it was a rogue elephant . JS
I would not be surprised that the operator was in financial trouble and this dive may well have just been enough to keep it afloat(sorry not being funny) we will soon see what comes out in the wash.
I know that the paying people in that tube, to call it something, had no idea that it had not had a proper survey, blind to everything with the excitement, except the young lad who would have been terrified the moment he went into the sub, and probably even more so when they were tightening those bolts.
Des
The guy who brought about the Titanic recoveries of artifacts spoke about it yesterday.
His first remark was about the structure, Carbon Fiber, not steel.
He has done numerous dives down to the wreck and cannot understand why such a venture was allowed, no certification for the vessel.
He also claimed they would have been alive until oxygen ran out which was according to him only moments before the implosion.