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Safe systems my a****.
We have the NBN here in Oz, lovingly known as 'No Bloody network'.
Tuesday get a pamphlet n the mail saying just how good the NBN is. with this in place you will be able to perform miracles.
Next morning truly a miracle, no net work across the town of some 42,000 residents.
Get a text from my phone company.
"The NBN is down due to a technical matter'
Was off for over 12 hours.
The magic of the technological age.
Reminds me of a trip on the Greenwich, to New Orleans, crossing the Atlantic light ship in a storm with a mostly beam sea... One morning, being the peggy, picked up the tray of eggs and bacon for the mess. Half way up the deck to the mess a big green one hit us and the tray and me took flight and landed all over the deck. Felt like Oliver Twist going back to the galley asking for another round. Ah memories.......
Similar thing happened to me back in the '70's. Was ch.mate on a bulk carrier with box sided holds and one of the regular runs was paper and wood products from BC CanadaQuote:
Originally Posted by j.sabourn
through the Pandemonium Canal to Europe. Standard practice after loading the 9000+ mt.of packaged lumber deck cargo was to do a roll test for the GM and righting lever.
Me being a young and energetic mate thought I would augment the roll test by doing stabilty calculations after taking the ullage of each and every of the 100+ parcels of cargo.
My calculations came to a good bit less than the roll test but still well within legal and acceptable limits. So , off we trundled . First to Long Beach for bunkers , through the canal
and just as we cleared the Carribean we picked up the tail end of a depression that stayed with us all the way to Cardiff. Same speed and course. Being right down to her marks , we were
shipping seas the whole way and she was getting very sluggish indeed . I had my wife and son on board and to try and ease my concience I reworked the figures this time using
an extra 20% for deck cargo absorption . Went upstairs and told the old man and we agreed it was a " hope for the best " job. After more trials and tribulations we did eventually
berth at Cardiff and the first thing I did was check the draft. Way over ( nobody else seemed to notice ) and based on that calculated that arrival GM was in the region of 2 centimeters.
Not an experience for a repeat .
Things must have changed in the 80's. I did 14 months on a product timber carrier loading out of BC for European ports. Timber was always loaded wet. Certainly was from Prince Rupert apart from the non stop rain there it was constantly kept wet by water sprays.
That seems very strange to me . Your ship was then carrying perhaps a couple of thousand tons of water for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by James Curry
What did the charterers say about that ?
#12, Reminds me of the old Joke Stan.... Youngster sent up to deliver the Skipper's dinner in a gale. Unfortunately along with the vile weather he had a stutter [no offence meant] which tossed him along the deck. Having reached the Skipper's cabin he knocked on door but couldn't speak. The Skipper annoyed and hungry yelled 'sing it laddie, sing it' whereby the young lad bellowed out 'yer mince & tatties is o'er the side o'er the side o'er the side....:p
I can only speak for myself John. On my one and only cruise in August 1987 on the QE2, where it did get a bit choppy over the area where the Titanic sank [as informed by steward and yes a few items did slide] not once did it enter my head to ask to view the Engine Room!:pNot when the view on deck[s] offered so much more IMHO.:)Unless of course you are engineered minded.....which I'm notQuote:
Originally Posted by happy daze john in oz
Having travelled on numerous ferries over the years like most, either in Europe, US or Scotland especially in my case[from Stranaer to Larne over Christmas periods - those were always in dire weather.] These folk complaining on said Ship really should just stay put if they can't handle a wee bit of excitement surely.
I've heard people talking about how rough it was in the night on cruises, but all it was, was there bed gently rising and falling. I hate being on a cruise with no movement, might as well go to Butlins. It's like when you have to look out the window to see if you're still at sea or along side.
Well John, all I can say is if you stepped off the wing of the bridge all you would have needed would have been a very short ladder and you would have been able to walk the length of the ship. It was board product timber , Spruce /Cedar, the water would likley have been surface water as the resin in the wood would have stopped the water penetrating into the wood? We also carried Bailed pulp , Chipboard down the holds. No logs, all forest products. Thousands of tons of water really. It was loaded wet so the GM ? improved as the cargo dried out during the voyage. If it was loaded dry surely it becoming wet in transit due to rain and shipping seas could put the ship in a dangerous condition no?
I have loaded logs many many years ago down west Africa , Sapele and in Takoradi. It was always loaded wet.
I am sure there are several Masters , Mates on here that sailed on Timber carriers perhaps they can explain it a lot better than me. The ship formed part of a cosortium called Forest Products International. I think Buries Marks had several vessels on the same trade
Perhaps John Arton ??
Getting a bit of rough at nights can be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Kieran