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6th December 2019, 04:56 PM
#61
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I see from reports that one macho guy said 'it was an horrific experience mate' they were without lights and power from 0545 until mid morning, jeez bluey that must have been really traumatising especially in calm waters, better consult a specialist when you get home. Now if you want an experience try being on a 600' vessel with the first 300' buried beneath the waves, saying to yourself, c'mon girl you can do it, heaving a sigh of relief as the bow emerges into daylight and hundreds of tons of water race down the deck as the bow reaches for the sky and doing it time and time again on a passage across the North Pacific, a misnamed ocean.
I suspect if the V de G had been listing 15 degrees then all kinds of emergency vessels would have been racing towards her, 15 degrees then you cannot launch your lifeboats on the high side.
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6th December 2019, 08:12 PM
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According to the report I read online the alarm sounded on the Bridge and they took the decision to black the ship out in order to protect the engine. Something doesn't ring true.
If it was a generator problem, which shut down or failed leaving a shortage of electrical power, there would be protection on the switchboard that would shut down the non essential services in order to protect the essential services.
Makes you wonder?
Vic
PS according to the Marine Traffic website she was without power for over six hours.
Last edited by vic mcclymont; 6th December 2019 at 08:18 PM.
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7th December 2019, 05:34 AM
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Ivan I like your analogy of the situation.
Crossing the Great Australian bight in what we thought at the time may well have been a sub the sea was so rough.
But according to our news the bridge alarm told them there was an engine problem so all was shut down.
We may in time get the full story, but hey just don't hold your breath on that one.
Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
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7th December 2019, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
happy daze john in oz
Ivan I like your analogy of the situation.
Crossing the Great Australian bight in what we thought at the time may well have been a sub the sea was so rough.
But according to our news the bridge alarm told them there was an engine problem so all was shut down.
We may in time get the full story, but hey just don't hold your breath on that one.
I would have thought the last thing you would do in heavy weather is to shut down the engine, assuming that there was nothing wrong it; maybe it was like that other one that shut down due to low lube oil?
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7th December 2019, 05:21 PM
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Tony Taylor
I would have thought the last thing you would do in heavy weather is to shut down the engine, assuming that there was nothing wrong it; maybe it was like that other one that shut down due to low lube oil?
Tony from all the photos I've seen on various news reports and nautical sites, there was no bad weather, there was a wind blowing, looked like gentle breezes to me, which would cause a slab sided vessel to drift, but to describe it as an 'horrific situation' was laughable, mind you some people thinks its bad weather if spray comes over the I O W Ferry bow. I doubt it was a situation that put the ship in danger if it was a voluntary shutdown, no Master would take a decision that placed his vessel and all souls on board in danger, especially in these days of litigation where-in Masters have been jailed for actions of a 3/m or 3/E et al for making false entries in a record book..
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3rd February 2020, 06:02 AM
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In Port Melbourne Sunday the Queen Elizabeth, registered in Hamilton.
Looking at a similar photo of here taken two years ago she was then registered in Southampton.
Times change and so do ships port of registry it would appear.
Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
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3rd February 2020, 09:11 AM
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Hi Joh
I sailed on the QUEEN ELIZABETH a few years ago , it may have been when I met you and Neil there in Melbourne. she was reg. in Southampton.
Then Cunard said there was a BIG Market in ship board Weddings , British Law would not allow it, so they Registered the three Queens in Hamilton Bermuda , Two years later I sailed on her again. I asked the Purer , How many weddings have yo had, he said None,. .
So it was a Tax Dodge,
I haven't sailed Cunard since,
I have sailed all the time now on Holland America, they are Registered in Rotterdam and under the Dutch Flag with all British and Dutch Masters , Officers .
Brian
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3rd February 2020, 11:31 AM
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Brian, a few of the Princess ships have a wedding chapel on them including one still registered in London.
Have seen a couple of on board weddings, but not too many.
Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
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3rd February 2020, 10:55 PM
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4th February 2020, 12:48 AM
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"Even though it is believed to be a regular event, weddings at sea are a rarity. A ship's captain generally does NOT have the legal right to officiate a wedding at sea. In order for a Captain of a ship to perform a marriage at sea, he must also be a judge, a justice of the peace, a minister, or an officially recognized officiant such as a Notary Public."
"A wedding at sea takes planning. It's not something you can decide to do at the last minute."
Just copied and pasted the above from google. "Is shipboard Marriage legal in the USA?"
In the states we have fifty states and fifty laws regarding thing from murder to marriage, but non- are recognized unless the Captain is ordained or a Justice etc.. If done it's purely for romantic effect and must be solemnized ashore under the legal parameters.
Cheers, Rodney.
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