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    Default Re: Please help me ifentify this pennant

    I just want to say a big thank you to all of you - especially Bil Morrison for identifying the pennant as being from the Moss Hutchinson line. Just out of interest - I’ve attached the ensign that was wrapped around the MH pennon. 3D5F85CA-65EC-4BEE-959D-6BBCC106CB93.jpg
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    Just a thought lads T.J.Harrisons of Liverpool had a great affinity with the West Indies, And most of there trade was with the Caribbean Islands. I was with them a while and they did employ a lot of West Indian Seaman. Here is there house flag it could well be that pennant was a tribute to them Terry.

    Stuart, Can you post an enlarged picture of the crest on the Red Ensign, My reasoning Moss Hutchinson line traded mostly with the Mediterranean country,s I dont find much evidence they traded with the West Indies Regards all. Terry.
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    Hi Terry - here’s a better pic (hopefully...99C5E3E6-8834-4D48-80E5-0A0674E09FF7.jpg

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    Sorry -wrong pic. Try this one instead...A1AB6057-7CC2-4F5B-BD10-3A596346D397.jpg

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    Stuart, Follow the link, It will explain the crest that i think he added himself to the Red Ensign, I take it he was of Jamaican origin himself. Still dont give the ships company away for certain who it belonged to. Sorry mate the crest is explained but why he chose to add it to the flag will have to stay with him. Interesting post thanks for sharing it with us, If you get any more info on him please share it with us best Regards Terry.

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    There are two topless maidens, and a motto.
    INDUS UTER QUE SERVIET UNI.
    At the Independence day of Jamaica................

    The motto will be inscribed in the scroll of the Jamaica Coat of Arms, which will be retained without any other alternation.
    The existing Latin motto "Indus Uterque Serviet Uni" (The Indians twain shall serve one Lord), will be discarded as bearing no relation to modern independent Jamaica.
    As was explained in a Ministry Paper tabled recently in the House of Representatives, the existing Coat of Arms was granted Jamaica in 1661, under Royal Warrant and was partially revised in 1957.

    It constituted a badge of great historical significance. The original Arms were designed by William Sandcroft, who was, at that time, Archbishop of Canterbury, and the use of the Royal Helmet and Mantling is a unique distinction accorded Jamaica.

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    Hope this explains some of it.
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    My father-in-law was Stockport born and bred and until joining the MN had no connections to Jamaica at all. He certainly didn’t cobble this ensign together himself because I’ve seen a couple of identical flags to this following a few days of trawling the Internet.

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    Stuart, Do you have access to his discharge book, Or any ships he sailed in, I am still not convinced unless his book or ships history shows that he was with Moss Hutchinson Line......................... Regards Terry.
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    HI, Moss Hutchinson. My brother was JOS on the “Egyptian” c1948 — brought home a few boxes of Turkish Delight !

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