Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: Empress of Scotland.

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    48
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    2
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    3

    Default Empress of Scotland.

    H i All,
    I was an Electrical officer on the Empress of Scotland between may 1955 untill may 1956 sailing
    between Liverpool and Montreal, we did the New York - West Indes cruises that year. If anybody
    was on during this period in the Electrical section I would certainly like to hear from them.

    Cheers and all the best
    Norman

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    lake mary florida
    Posts
    924
    Thanks (Given)
    1
    Thanks (Received)
    17
    Likes (Given)
    6
    Likes (Received)
    75

    Default Emp Of Scotland

    was,nt it the Scotland that turned over in the brockelbank dock in the early fifties, after a fire .there is a picture on a web site somewere of a Empress boat on its side in dock at LIverpool. I remember going on the overhead railway to see it

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    48
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    2
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    3

    Default

    Hi Neville,
    I think it was the Empress of Canada that nearly turned over in the Gladstone Dock at
    Seaforth in the 50s after a fire onboard.
    kind regards,
    Norman.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Wemyss Bay Inverclyde
    Posts
    940
    Thanks (Given)
    844
    Thanks (Received)
    715
    Likes (Given)
    1047
    Likes (Received)
    2006

    Default John Callon

    It was the Empress of Canada that burned out in Liverpool in Gladstone Dock B1. The fire was started by a discarded cigarette end. She capsized onto her port side and lay there for the best part of 6 months. Eventually she was refloated, towed in to the Gladstone drydock, patched up and taken to La Spezia for scrap the amount paid to the insurers was 40,000. The on ly reason have this information was that in 1966 I was on a fire fighting course at Banks Road, Speke in Liverpool and there was this middle aged guy who was asking the intructors qustions relating to this vessel, and really wanted answers in great detail. I had no idea who he was when several months later I saw his picture on the front of the Daily Telegraph with the MD of John Browns Shipyard on the Clyde. It turned out that he was Commodore of Cunard Captain Bill Warwick and he was to be Captain on the maiden voyage of the QE2. And so guys here ends another piece
    of usless information.
    Regards
    John C.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Easington, Nr Saltburn, Cleveland
    Posts
    47
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    4
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    6

    Default Empress of Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by John Callon View Post
    It was the Empress of Canada that burned out in Liverpool in Gladstone Dock B1. The fire was started by a discarded cigarette end. She capsized onto her port side and lay there for the best part of 6 months. Eventually she was refloated, towed in to the Gladstone drydock, patched up and taken to La Spezia for scrap the amount paid to the insurers was 40,000. The on ly reason have this information was that in 1966 I was on a fire fighting course at Banks Road, Speke in Liverpool and there was this middle aged guy who was asking the intructors qustions relating to this vessel, and really wanted answers in great detail. I had no idea who he was when several months later I saw his picture on the front of the Daily Telegraph with the MD of John Browns Shipyard on the Clyde. It turned out that he was Commodore of Cunard Captain Bill Warwick and he was to be Captain on the maiden voyage of the QE2. And so guys here ends another piece
    of usless information.
    Regards
    John C.
    Thought you might be interested in the following regarding the fire of 25 January 1953 on the Empress of Canada:

    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/e...l&siteid=50061

    http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server...nMediaFile.155

    Best wishes
    Last edited by Bill Dobson; 28th September 2008 at 12:23 AM. Reason: 2nd link added

    R866332
    A Yorkshireman calls a spade a spade

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Sunbury Victoria Australia
    Posts
    22,690
    Thanks (Given)
    6971
    Thanks (Received)
    9212
    Likes (Given)
    95525
    Likes (Received)
    41000

    Default

    Hard to believe something as simple as a smouldering cig could do so much damage, great shame to see a good ship go out that way.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

    Life is too short to blend in.

    John Strange R737787
    World Traveller

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    wolverhampton
    Posts
    208
    Thanks (Given)
    14
    Thanks (Received)
    42
    Likes (Given)
    108
    Likes (Received)
    424

    Default

    It was the Canada, quick replacement was required, was the french ship 'De Grasse' (Empress of Australia), well known phrase was coined by the lads--Keep off De Grasse--

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    9
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    1
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NORMAN F WORMALD View Post
    Hi Neville,
    I think it was the Empress of Canada that nearly turned over in the Gladstone Dock at
    Seaforth in the 50s after a fire onboard.
    kind regards,
    Norman.
    I was serving aboard CPSCo Beaverlake at the time of the demise of the Empress of Canada and we had to sail for Liverpol to pick up her cargo. Cheers Ted Cooper

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Seaforth L'Pool Merseyside
    Posts
    0
    Thanks (Given)
    635
    Thanks (Received)
    4644
    Likes (Given)
    8886
    Likes (Received)
    10737

    Default Empress of Scotland

    I was in the Sea Cadets at the time and I walked on the capsized hull of the Canada in the Gladstone.
    The day it was brought up I was on the barrell roof shed of a timber yard across the dock road and seen the whole thing,what a sight to see it been brought back upright.Every week before it was brought up I was down there watching all the different moves that where being made.For instance across the dock in an avenue behind the Blue Flu berth sheds a number of steam winches were set up,each winch with it's own steam supply line so that the farthest winch had the same pulling power as the nearest to the supply.Holes were put through the walls of the shed and cables put across the dock and attached to the ship.The first time we heard the word camel was then,the camels were big tanks welded to the hull below the water line.pumped out,full of air this gave bouyancy (sic?) and helped with the ships flotation.
    Regards.
    Jim.B.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Now living in Invercargill,New Zealand,not far from Bluff
    Posts
    11
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    4
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    3

    Default Ray MANLEY

    I have only just found this area of this great site so its a bit late for a reply to this thread but I will reply anyway, you never know who will read it . I joined the "EMPRESS OF FRANCE" on the 26th Oct.1953 after a spell at "INDEFATIGABLE" training school. The first thing I noticed was the "EMPRESS OF CANADA" on its side in the same dock,what a sad sight to see, and after having recently seen another great ship ,high and dry on its side on the Menai straits (HMS CONWAY) I was beginning to think I was being told something. I spewed my way accross the Atlantic and I spewed my way back again and could not get off that ship quick enough, headed for London then and joined a Palm boat, happy days

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Empress of Australia and France
    By Ian Esson in forum Canadian Pacific
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: 13th June 2022, 08:30 AM
  2. Empress Of England Old Bosun
    By Ian Walker in forum Canadian Pacific
    Replies: 77
    Last Post: 30th October 2021, 08:14 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •