Union fees

[cappy]

Did any of them ever offer help, never heard of any.

no john but they sure helped themselves.....in fact did anyone get any help not..... that i know of ......dont know if south shields and north shields had there own union reps ....or one for sunderland blyth hartlepool middlesboro.....the answer is there were probably dozens of them round the country .....chosen by commie slater .....sitting on there asses having what can only be called jobs for the boys....and being paid hard working seamens wages ......who in return got nix

[cappy]

The seamans union never ever asked to increase wages for seamen .....the strikes were caused to bring down the government of this country ...along with the red wave of union commanders scargill etc for purely political and leftist attacks on the freely elected government of this country......what did it attain ......no MN.....no ships ......no jobs ....no seamen.....now mclusky going may be fresh hope for people paying union fees ....that there fees may benefit them... not political masters living lifestyles and salaries beyond there wildest dreams its cloud cuckoo land political chicanery..... rant for today over

[Lewis McColl]

Mean while dodgy Dave will have his mates brush everything under the carpet. Everything Cameron has had his hands on has been doomed to failure.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...tract-18824578

[cappy]

mean while dodgy dave will have his mates brush everything under the carpet. Everything cameron has had his hands on has been doomed to failure.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...tract-18824578

the sad thing is the free vote in this democratic country was used by the majority to vote him in .....i can only presume the opposition were even more risky looking .....although diane ...corbyn ...and that funny labour ratty looking little health bloke were the other choice....perhaps we get what we deserve.....lol cappy

[Keith Tindell]

Cappy, the only reason we have Boris and his mates, yes i voted for him, and i am a floating voter, the choice was pretty stark, Corbyn, shudder, delusional Liberal women, long gone, or Boris who i don't really trust. So there you have it, 3 choices , but only one would get us out of the EU, kt

[cappy]

cappy, the only reason we have boris and his mates, yes i voted for him, and i am a floating voter, the choice was pretty stark, corbyn, shudder, delusional liberal women, long gone, or boris who i don't really trust. So there you have it, 3 choices , but only one would get us out of the eu, kt

better choice than russia keith ...only one vote putin ....or shot lol .....not sure which is worst our lot or shot

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Cappy, the only reason we have Boris and his mates, yes i voted for him, and i am a floating voter, the choice was pretty stark, Corbyn, shudder, delusional Liberal women, long gone, or Boris who i don't really trust. So there you have it, 3 choices , but only one would get us out of the EU, kt

NOT SURE KEITH IF WE ARE FLOATING VOTERS OR VOTING FLOATERS ...THINK I WOULD RATHER BE THE FORMER

[happy daze john in oz]

It has been said the people get the gov they deserve.
What did we do wrong here in Victoria to get this lot????


But thinking back, I do not recall ever seeing a union rep at any time on ship or shore.

[j.sabourn]

Apart from arguing at times with some union reps at pay offs. My memory’s of the NUS was that the shipowner if he had ever wanted to break them could have just told the NUS. To collect their own dues in and refused to deduct it from a seaman’s wages. The NUS in a lot of cases relied on the shipowner for survival moneywise. The BSF to my recollection consisted of government ,shipowner, and representative of the NUS. What was apparent to me in Australia the replacement for the BSF consisted solely of the Maritime Union they did all the manpower requirements . What they achieved for its members was satisfactionary for same, but not so much for the shipowner , no comparison with its British counterpart finance wise. But to my knowledge all gone now. JS

[Keith Tindell]

Well, i remember they were pretty bloody quick to check you union book was all paid up when you went to sign on another ship, probably like most, it was a time when you were hard up, and could least afford to pay at that time. I have ben a member of the Fire Brigade Union, and the only time i attended a *week end School* was as i was about to retire, and the guy who dealt with pensions was there to consult, but it was an eye opener as to what went on at these weekends with expense claims, hotels, etc, really was a glorious pi** up for all, but mainly the reps with their union credit cards, money no problem kt

[j.sabourn]

#79... Keith unless anyone knows to the contrary the NUS was never a closed shop. What the legal repercussions would have been if didn’t pay, I don’t really know maybe others have studied the implications. Whereas in the time I worked in Australia it was a closed shop if you weren’t a union member then you didn’t work. As I said the conditions for the 11 years I worked out here , whether I was lucky and the timing was right I don’t know, but myself have never sailed with better conditions. So on personally a selfish view I view the Guild out here at that time with much favour. Anti union people may take the other view, but me I was there for a livelihood and not to play around. Sure it cost me money but was amply rewarded and well worth the fees. Today As said believe those days have been curtailed . Cheers JS.

As an example of the fees have already said somewhere
There were two rosters A and B.
A was where the union put you permanent with a company and say your salary was $100.000 then you paid 5% which was $5000 annually dues. Out of that 5% money went into your retirement fund together with the owners
B Agreement was temporary employment with a company and you paid 2% which was $2000 dues.
You received no money into the retirement fund , but you received 28% loading on your wages . Making your salary up to $128.000 per annum.
My last job in the UK was 32 pounds a day when you worked , a weeks paid leave every 4 weeks .
And this was not standard there were other stand by vessels I would of got a damn sight less .There was of course no union representation allowed by these companies . You can very well say why take these jobs , whey ! Indeed , it was the only jobs available and the choice was yours , that or the dole. The world owes no one a living and saying that one does what one thinks is right. I will at least die knowing my choice was correct. JS.....