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30th January 2021, 10:50 PM
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#8 Being lazy my first choice would. Be the Sun, second Polaris. Cheers JS.
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31st January 2021, 12:29 AM
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Re: coastal schooner
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31st January 2021, 01:06 AM
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Re: coastal schooner
The Flying Dutchman is still said to be around, although confess to have never seen. And the Albatrosses still fly around ( which have seen ) who possess the dead souls of seamen past. Wonder what they make of the world of today ? JS
PS They at one time also used to be Quarantined south of the equator but someone or something lifted that barrier a long time ago now. JS
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31st January 2021, 01:03 PM
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Re: coastal schooner
John #13 not the same one but this one from the pirates of the Caribbean film was at Disney’s cruise line private island in the Bahamas 1090AC1B-5282-4BB4-A690-8BC22B2C42E2.jpg
Regards Michael
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31st January 2021, 03:00 PM
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Re: coastal schooner
See, I thought the bigger the ship, the better it could take the waves. Sounds like I was wrong
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31st January 2021, 05:36 PM
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Re: coastal schooner
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Frank Burroughs
See, I thought the bigger the ship, the better it could take the waves. Sounds like I was wrong
For the purposes of this explanation lets take a large ship as being +/- 600 feet and a small ship as +/-250 feet
Large ships today can be in excess of 1000 feet (I don't do metres!) and act differently even in good weather and flex like a guitar string.
No hard and fast rules Frank, big ships can be overwhelmed as easily as small ships. In general a fully loaded big ship will plough through the waves, a small fully loaded ship will ride over the waves, but you can also substitute swell for waves as they are in reality two different things but part of the same body of water, the wave breaks over the swell.
A large ship in ballast in heavy weather will pound into a wave/swell (w/s)and upon her bow rising will shake herself like a wet terrier, if you don't alleviate that pounding by putting the swell off the bow by about 10/15 degrees and adjust your speed you could pound your ship in half. On a small ship in ballast you will be pretty uncomfortable but still buoyant as you ride over the swell but have the waves break right over your vessel causing it to yaw and sheer as you descend into the swell as your rudder and screw are more than likely out of the water and will not bite again until you're climbing the swell again and have a degree of control.
A ship will act differently in different sea conditions and depending whether not you are carrying a heavy cargo in the lower holds, or a full general cargo in hold and tweendecks and possibly also a deck cargo. You have to learn your ship and if Master joining as first time talk to your chief officer if he has already sailed on the ship to try and ascertain how she acts. The worst ships to join are those on their maiden voyage as she has not faced any inclement weather so you don't know how she will react and have to nurse her until you're sure how she will respond to weather, also speed and helm input.
Could go on further but hope this taster is of help.
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31st January 2021, 05:41 PM
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Re: coastal schooner
Thanks!
The more I read, the less I know. Your explanation helps greatly.
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31st January 2021, 06:33 PM
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Re: coastal schooner
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Frank Burroughs
Thanks!
The more I read, the less I know. Your explanation helps greatly.
Frank we're here to help, we didn't learn our craft overnight, and with the sea you never stop learning, no matter how smart you think you may be, mother nature will bring you down to earth with a bump at the most unexpected times.
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1st February 2021, 05:43 AM
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Re: coastal schooner
It is not always the size of the wave you have to worry about.
A big swell on some ships can be just as bad and at times worse.
Happy daze John in Oz.
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