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    FIREMAN
    THOMAS BURT
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Merchant Navy

    S.S. San Florentino (London)

    Date of Death
    Died 02 October 1941

    Age 18 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    TOWER HILL MEMORIAL

    Panel 92.

    United Kingdom

    Country of Service
    United Kingdom

    Additional Info
    Son of James and Margaret Burt, of Possilpark, Glasgow.

    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...THOMAS%20BURT/

    https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?15167

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    [QUOTE=Maureen Wright;363460 ...
    Also does anyone know more about either the Kayeson ( all souls were lost) or U-32 or Hans Jenisch.

    I have enjoyed reading about other members’ stories and hope my family story is of interest.[/QUOTE]

    Hi Maureen,

    There are a number of websites out there that may interest you and further your knowledge. Wikipedia gives some information about U32 and has a picture. It also lists other ships sunk by U32.

    This gives details about the ship itself:
    Kayeson 1929


    These give details of the U-boat action and the wreck site:

    https://uboat.net/allies/merchants/ship/574.html gives details of the sinking of the Kayeson

    https://wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?12878

    Keep hunting, it is surprising what can turn up!

    Hazel

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    Maureen have sent by PM some relevant information that may be useful.

    Keith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy View Post
    John the use of googling is in my mind one of the wonders of the modern world ...but it surely cannot be used as the reason to stop using social conversations......it should be used as a gift to give us answers which would take us weeks or whatever of library work etc ....my feelings are ...i come on the site to have a social contact and discuss various items reffering mainly to life as we new it at sea ...and day to day life in general ...nothing aggravates me more than in the middle of chat ...say about cyglones and hearing different stories of folks who have been in them .....UP COMES A CUT AND PASTE stopping the almost human chain of contact and giving reams of mainly unwanted information.......this is only my personal view ...i am not trying to change anything if i wanted to just get info i would ist google it .... but surely the word from fellow seafarers and ex seafarers has ist choice ....many will disagree but speech is free and that is my choiceregards cappy ....off to google todays weather
    Cappy, so true about the conversation.
    The younger ones now rely on text and other things, for them there is no real conversation and yes I totally agree the last thing we want is a cut and paste in the middle of what at times can be a very interesting discussion.
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    RE: Are there entries like this for all personnel listed at Tower Hill? Looking for similar entry for Thomas Burt aged 18 died on San F;lorentino 2/10/1941

    Do you have a date and place of birth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith at Tregenna View Post
    Maureen have sent by PM some relevant information that may be useful.

    Keith.


    Thanks for the replies, have just read them. The book sounds
    interesting, I do have a few duplicates as my late father had
    many also, if your son is keen on more later, pos I could get
    some to you.

    Regards. Keith.

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    Haha Ivan - loved your post - I was a Teaching Assistant for 25years so I didn’t have the ebony ruler and I have too much respect for all you ex seamen/ women to ever correct your grammar!
    Thank you for the warning though about errors online and now that I have taken the plunge into asking questions, I won’t hesitate in future. It has been wonderful to read so many stories and to learn about things that I honestly never realised.
    So thank you for your encouragement and help.

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    Thank you Keith - I have been bowled over by all the interesting replies - very grateful.

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    Wow thank you Hazel how amazing - yes I will indeed .

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    The U-boat.net is very interesting - so much information about the boats themselves and captains/ crew.
    Thanks again Hazel

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    Maureen,

    Would you happen to have a photograph of him I could you use for my new book. Two of the casualties were 16, while one other was only 14

    CORLETT, Mess Room Boy, GEORGE THOMAS, S.S. Kayeson (London). Merchant Navy. 2nd October 1940. Age 14. Son of Catherine Corlett, of West Derby, Liverpool.

    GALLEY, Ordinary Seaman, WILLIAM THOMAS, S.S. Kayeson (London). Merchant Navy. 2nd October 1940. Age 16. Son of William and Margaret E. Galley, of Orsett, Essex.

    KELLY, Galley Boy, CYRIL JOHN, S.S. Kayeson (London). Merchant Navy. 2nd October 1940. Age 16. Son of Joseph and Maud Mary Kelly, of 13 Lincoln Rd, Birkdale, Southport.


    Cargo ship Kayeson, 4,606grt, (Kaye, Son & Co. Ltd) loaded with a general cargo including coal for Montevideo joined the 32 ship Convoy OB-220, which departed Liverpool on the 27th September 1940, dispersing into the North Atlantic five days later. On the 2nd October the Kayeson was intercepted by U-32 about 560 nautical miles West of Cape Clear, Co. Cork and hit in the bow from the U-boats last torpedo and the ship began to settle. The U-boat then came to the surface and fired her last two rounds from her deck gun at the ship, which both missed due to the heavy swell and the U-boat left the area and the ship finally sank in position 51’ 12N 24’ 22W. Although U-32 observed the crew abandoning ship, nothing more was heard from these thirty-eight men.
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    Maureen,

    Attached copy of Deaths at Sea Register for Kayeson.

    Kayeson.jpg Kayeson2.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazel Stringer View Post
    Hi Doc,

    Are there entries like this for all personnel listed at Tower Hill? Looking for similar entry for Thomas Burt aged 18 died on San F;lorentino 2/10/1941
    Thomas Burt recorded bottom of page. Entry from the Deaths at Sea Register

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