I have not thought about this for 55 years. Just seen "DR and double DR", but I can't remember what it meant.
Frank.
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I have not thought about this for 55 years. Just seen "DR and double DR", but I can't remember what it meant.
Frank.
Never got either of them Frank, but believe it stood for *decline to report*, and then having to go on the coast or anything offered to cover them up, happy days, kt
Hello Keith.
Would that be after signing on but not turning up on the day?.
Frank
Was usually at the end of the voyage i think Frank, depending on how many loggings etc. I had heard of guys being offered to work the loggings off in their own time in exchange for a good discharge, but don't know how true that was. My only other discharge was a *engagement cancelled*, after signing on in London, my mother taken ill, so had to cancel after doing two trips on the St Merriel, kt
The Discharges at the end of a VOYAGE were,. ………
ABILITY ……………GENERAL CONDUCT.
VERY GOOD...…..…VERY GOOD.
GOOD...…………….. GOOD. ……………….. [not so good]
DR …..………………..DR ………... [ Decline to Report, a bad discharge ]
VNC,...………………. [ Voyage Not Completed.]
JohnQuote:
Originally Posted by happy daze john in oz
All seafarers have to still have and carry a discharge book, or as it's correctly called "continuous certificate of discharge". The column regarding conduct and ability disappeared in 1973?. Ship owners and/or managers replaced those entries with there own report forms which dependent on the company could contain rating on a number of subjects including conduct, ability, suitability for promotion etc. My last outfit used a scoring of 1-10 for all the subjects along with a section to write in any comments applicable to the seafarers ability, how they work with there fellow crew members etc. There was also a section for the seafarer to enter his own comments. The form was signed by the mate (in the case of deck crew), master and the individual concerned. Copies were held on board, sent to head office and given to the seafarer.
As regards discharge books I have filled in books from Norway, Philippines, Latvia, russian federation amongst others and apart from size, colour and language (if foreign they would always have English subtitles), they all contained identical columns for entry you would see in a u.k. discharge book.
Rgds
J.A.
There is one other endorsement you were allowed when being discharged in the ability and conduct sections which was Endorsement not Required. The Union guy told me to ask for that instead of the double D.R. which I was about to receive when signing of the Orcades in May 1970. I had missed the ship in Auckland and re-joined her a few days later in Suva. All agreed that for conduct I deserved a D.R. but certainly not for ability, the Chief Steward tried to talk me into signing back on to cover up the discharge. I took my chances to go before a disciplinary panel at my pool in London who found in my favour. I then went to the catering counter and was offered straight away the Cicero a great little passenger cargo ship lying in the West India dock and did about an 8 week trip to the Med. and back it turned out to be one of the best ships I sailed on. I guess I was lucky as I had been told I would have to take what ever ship was offered.
or the alternative, if you've got grandchildren tell them it means 'Distinquished Report'Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith Tindell
Dodged the DR by the skin of my teeth a couple of times but copped the VNC for a brief sojourn in NZ .
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Originally Posted by John Arton
The crew on cruise ships are all on contracts, normally about 9 months with the option to return to the company on maybe another ship.
They have ID cards but speaking with some they made no mention of certificate of discharge.
Which makes me wonder are they treated differently to those on cargo or tankers?